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Allemansrätten - could this work in the US?

Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:39 pm
In Scotland, the Nordic countries of Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden, the Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and the Central European countries of Austria, Czech Republic and Switzerland, the freedom to roam takes the form of general public rights which are sometimes codified in law.

allemansrätten (meaning “everyman’s right”), the right of public access gives people the freedom to roam just about anywhere in the countryside as long as they “Don’t disturb – Don’t destroy.” Essentially, a 100 million acre playground open to all.

“Under the Right of Public Access we do not need permission to cross private land. This is the basis for the wide-ranging freedom we enjoy to spend time in the countryside,” notes the Swedish EPA.

Which isn’t to say there aren’t rules, but they are sensible. Here is what is allowed and what is not, according to the law:

You are allowed to access any land, except private residences, the immediate vicinity (230 feet) of a dwelling house and cultivated land.
You can put up a tent.
Campfires are allowed.
You are allowed to collect flowers, mushrooms and berries.
Driving on private roads is allowed unless there’s a sign saying otherwise.
Swimming in lakes is allowed.
You can access any beach as long as you stay away from private residences.
You are allowed to catch fish in the five big lakes and along the entire coastline.

You need permission to hunt, but most other non-invasive activity is allowed so long as it’s not visible from a residence.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
158988 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:41 pm to
this would not work in the US

I won't go into why, as I do not want to get banned
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30617 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:41 pm to
frick that, I don't want people on my land
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:43 pm to
I'm sure that would work great in our "diverse" culture.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71828 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:45 pm to
Just to be clear, this means if I own 100 acres of land, any bum can pitch a tent, fish in my pond and live there as long as they aren't within 250 feet of my house?
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66985 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:45 pm to
Meth labs everywhere
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
14740 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:46 pm to
We have hundreds of thousands of square miles of national parks. No nation on Earth can touch the size, variation, and majesty of our national parks. We don't need that weird commie law, because of our protected natural parks.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Just to be clear, this means if I own 100 acres of land, any bum can pitch a tent, fish in my pond and live there as long as they aren't within 250 feet of my house?



And just to be clear I own as many weapons as some of the countries listed so my pond isn’t getting fished out.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135028 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

I won't go into why, as I do not want to get banned



Some Things are even worse than gypsies
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Some Things are even worse than gypsies



Smoked gypsies.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Just to be clear, this means if I own 100 acres of land, any bum can pitch a tent, fish in my pond and live there as long as they aren't within 250 feet of my house?


For no more than 2 days.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
Get off my land you goddamn hippies.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
8034 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
Sounds like a meth cooks dream.
Posted by Crimson
Member since Jan 2013
1893 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
Bubba up in the holler in Nebo mountain don't want nun a yuns trapsin thru his Marijewana crop. He wont take to kindly to that.

Reddit - Stories from Nebo Mountain Tennessee
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16457 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:50 pm to
New Hampshire has some stuff like that, but not to that degree.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71828 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:51 pm to
No thanks. Can I shoot them on the third day? How is that even enforced?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:52 pm to
We have people leasing public land form the gov for pennies, then forming a militia when the gov wants to use said land, claiming it as there own. What do you think?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47701 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:53 pm to
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I won't go into why,


A cultural anomaly exists here that is not an issue there?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:55 pm to
Knowing how well-behaved folks in those countries are, I would bet it never HAS to be enforced.

I wouldn’t mind cute blonde nordic college girls camping on my land for a couple of days.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:56 pm to
It works there because they are nearly 100% white. It would be chaos in a multicultural society
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