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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:09 am to
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This (from the police report from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.


Serious question.....Are you just dishonest, trolling, or legitimately dumb as fricking frick? There is nothing in the police report about a struggle for a handgun taking place during a burglary. What the frick is wrong with you?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:12 am to
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Serious question.....Are you just dishonest, trolling, or legitimately dumb as fricking frick? There is nothing in the police report about a struggle for a handgun taking place during a burglary. What the frick is wrong with you?


So we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water because whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:12 am to
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I began speaking with Gregory McMichael who was a witness to the incident . McMichael stated there have been several Break - ins in the neighborhood and further the suspect was caught on surveillance video. Mi his front yard and saw the suspect from the break-ins "hauling arse" down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated he then ran inside his house and called to Travis ( ) and said " Travis the guy is running down the street lets go". McMichael stated he went to his bedroom and grabbed his . Magnum and Travis grabbed his shotgun because they " didn ' t know if the male was armed or not" . Michael stated " the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed


Ok, now where is the account of Arbery being shot during a burglary in a fight over a handgun?

Here is what we know as of today:

(1) Arbery was killed by a shotgun, not a handgun
(2) Arbery was unarmed
(3) Arbery had no stolen items on his person at the time of his murder
(4) There has been no evidence offered that Arbery committed a robbery or burglary on the date of his murder.
(5) One of the murders has alleged that Arbery committed what would amount to misdemeanor trespass prior to his murder.


There are only a couple reasonable conclusions to why the mother's account is so egregiously different than what actually transpired:

(1) The mother is either lying or is terribly confused about what the police told her.

(2) The police are grossly incompetent and took the redneck's account and assumptions without doing even the least amount of investigation.

(3) The police investigated the murder and then fabricated the account to make it seem like this murder was justifiable.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:12 am to
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So we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water because whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?



God you're fricking retarded lmao
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8746 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:13 am to
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So we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water because whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?


That and the burglary.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18851 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:13 am to
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whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?


Was that the only inconsistency?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27851 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:13 am to
Just looking at Google Maps, he was 2.1 miles away from his house and he had to cross a highway to get to where he was.

If he was looking to steal stuff, would he really run for more than 2 miles with stolen items?

On the other hand, if he was just out for a run, would he really cross a highway?


I don’t know, just adding some info to the thread.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:13 am to
Great retort. Maybe work on including some actual rebuttal instead of ad hominem attacks.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:14 am to
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Great retort. Maybe work on including some actual rebuttal instead of ad hominem attacks.



You just ignore all legitimate rebuttals so why bother?

That or make shite up to support your shitty take and terrible argument.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:15 am to
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That and the burglary.


Again, the only information they were going on was a statement from the shooter and his pals (that this guy may have been involved in a burglary) and a video that showed a struggle over a gun in which he was shot.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:15 am to
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ust looking at Google Maps, he was 2.1 miles away from his house and he had to cross a highway to get to where he was.

If he was looking to steal stuff, would he really run for more than 2 miles with stolen items?

On the other hand, if he was just out for a run, would he really cross a highway?


I don’t know, just adding some info to the thread.



Did the highway have a cat walk/overpass walkway to it? I only ask because at the previous school I worked at we had kids that regularly walked/ran across a cat walk to avoid having to run down Taylor Blvd (where Churchill Downs is).
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:16 am to
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Again, the only information they were going on was a statement from the shooter and his pals (that this guy may have been involved in a burglary)


May have been involved in a burglary =/= involved in a burglary at the time of his death.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17201 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:16 am to
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Wait, they thought he was armed because on a separate night someone who might not have been Arbery stuck his hand down his pants?

I thought the hand down the pants was some BS to start with, but I figured they were at least claiming they saw it the same day.


I definitely did not see this before. So they saw a black guy probably scratch his balls in public. Then they saw the same black guy another day jogging in the neighborhood. And their immediate response was he was obviously fleeing from the scene of a crime and he was also packing so they grabbed their shotguns in order to stop him.

You literally cannot make this stuff up.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:17 am to
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So we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water because whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?


And that is was with a homeowner DURING a burglary?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44221 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:17 am to
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(2) The police are grossly incompetent and took the redneck's account and assumptions without doing even the least amount of investigation


I'll take this one for $400 Alex.

Although (3) isn't out of the question either.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:17 am to
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This (from the police report from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.


quote:

McMichael stated he and Travis got in the truck and drove down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated when they arrived at the intersection of Satilla Drive and Holmes Drive, they saw the unidentified male running down Burford drive. McMichael then stated Travis drive down Burford and attempted to cut off the male. McMichael stated the unidentified male turned around and began running back the direction from which he came and "Roddy" attempted to block him which was unsuccessful. McMichael stated he then jumped into the bed of the truck and he and Travis continued to Holes in an attempt to intercept him.

McMichael stated they saw the unidentified male and shouted "stop, stop, we want to talk to you". McMichael stated they pulled up beside the male and shouted stop again at which time Travis exited the truck with the shotgun. McMichael stated the unidentified male began to violently attack Travis and the two men started fighting over the shotgun at which point Travis fired a shot and then a second later there was a second shot. McMichael stated the male fell face down on the pavement with his hand under his body. McMichael stated he rolled the man over to see if the male had a weapon.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39286 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:17 am to
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So we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water because whoever was given the job of talking to the mom (supposedly according to the mom) said handgun instead of shotgun?



What the frick are you talking about? Again, you seem to be insinuating that any accountability is the same as persecution. Why?

quote:

“They told me he was involved in a burglary,” Cooper said. “And during a confrontation — a tussle over a handgun — he was shot and killed. I didn’t question that at the time, because when authority comes and tells you something, you trust authority.”


Do you feel this is an accurate representation of what happened?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:18 am to
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God you're fricking retarded lmao


I am not sure how this dude takes care of himself.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:18 am to
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On the other hand, if he was just out for a run, would he really cross a highway?


Is it an elevated highway? If yes, he could just jog under it.

If it's not elevated, but has a light and crosswalk, I don't find that odd for a jogger.

quote:

If he was looking to steal stuff, would he really run for more than 2 miles with stolen items? 


If it wasn't an elevated highway, why would a burglar try to cross a highway with armfuls of stolen stuff? It's a bold move.

Dunno, 2.1 miles seems a lot more like a jog than a burglary. I don't doubt he looked in the window, given the corroboratiin, but that's not a burglary at all.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106157 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:18 am to
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I definitely did not see this before. So they saw a black guy probably scratch his balls in public. Then they saw the same black guy another jogging in the neighborhood. And their immediate response was he was obviously fleeing from the scene of a crime and he was also packing so they grabbed their shotguns in order to stop him.

You literally cannot make this stuff up.


What's most painful about this is Arbery's aunt confirmed it was Arbery at the construction site on the video on the day of the shooting but could not confirm it him on any of the dates two months before. If she couldn't I sincerely doubt those baws could either.

It's literally a "they all look alike" fricking moment.
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