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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:40 am to
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I am not saying he was a suspect but the owner of the house said in an interview that he had $2500 worth if fishing equipment stolen from house


...and? Guess that since someone stole from you a while back gives you the right to grab your guns, chase down a stranger (who you have no clue if they stole from you) and greet them with a shotgun lead. Maybe I’m the dummy for thinking stolen fishing rods doesn’t warrant homicide?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:41 am to
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According to Merritt, police have had the video footage since Feb. 23, the day Arbery was killed. It is not clear why the footage was not shared with family or released prior to Tuesday.


If this is true, then there is absolutely no excuse for what was written in the report and what was told to the mother.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:42 am to
Those two worthless rednecks need the chair.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I am not saying he was a suspect but the owner of the house said in an interview that he had $2500 worth if fishing equipment stolen from house.


I don't see Arbery carrying a fishing rod in the video, so I'll go with either he didn't do it or the homeowner is talking about a prior incident.

What did he do, keister $2,500 worth of fishing equipment when he saw the shotgun fellas rolling up on him?

There's no evidence Arbery did anything beyond look into a house under construction that day. You can't tell me anyone would consider that a crime under normal circumstances. It only gets floated as a crime if you're trying to excuse shooting him.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:43 am to
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You have literally argued multiple times that the 2 dudes will get off because AA was the aggressor
Pirate Kuck is getting taken to the woodshed in this thread


It’s really one of the saddest flail attempts on his part. Pretty brutal being just so wrong
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40279 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:45 am to
quote:

There's no evidence Arbery did anything beyond look into a house under construction that day.


Do we even know if that person looking into the house was Arbery?
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:45 am to
quote:

It is not clear why the footage was not shared with family or released prior to Tuesday.


I'm going to disagree with this. I can offer at least one theory about why the video wasn't released previously, and it has to do with what the video shows vs what the first DA decided.
Posted by TexasTiger90
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:45 am to
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...and? Guess that since someone stole from you a while back gives you the right to grab your guns, chase down a stranger (who you have no clue if they stole from you) and greet them with a shotgun lead. Maybe I’m the dummy for thinking stolen fishing rods doesn’t warrant homicide?

This. It really just sounds like frickwits with guns scraping for an excuse to run out like the Duke boys and dole out some good ol' fashioned citizen's justice.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:47 am to
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Did he file a report for that?



No, but if I remember correctly there were videos of someone entering .
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:47 am to
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Do we even know if that person looking into the house was Arbery?


I saw an article where his mom is quoted as saying she viewed the footage of him looking into the house and believes it was her son.

So, I was going with that. The bigger point for me is there's a 0% chance anyone thinks that what's described on the construction site video is a crime absent the shooting, let alone a crime that justifies random citizens chasing him down with shotguns.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39286 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:48 am to
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I'm going to disagree with this. I can offer at least one theory about why the video wasn't released previously, and it has to do with what the video shows vs what the first DA decided.



I mean, everyone can see the connection except for the dude who was arguing that perhaps the police were mistaken in innocently believing their comrade wasn't lying.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65284 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:

ACksHUaLy, U dON't UNderSTAND WHat UH StraWmAN RguMINT is.


It’s being inferred that I’m a racist redneck because I think these yokels will get off.

I present facts to support my views and that’s apparently me doubling down and saying these guys were justified in what they did.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106158 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:49 am to
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"Aggressive turn" Jesus frickin christ


I like how the unarmed guy was making an "aggressive turn" and that warrants a self-defense response when he totally ignores the armed with a shotgun baw that didn't even get out of the truck until Arbery was in the process of running around it.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40279 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I present facts to support my views


All your facts are wrong tho
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39286 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:50 am to
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I present facts to support my views and that’s apparently me doubling down and saying these guys were justified in what they did.



You're speculation about why the police report says what it says and why the police didn't tell the mother the truth of what happened isn't based on facts. Unless you have a different idea of what a fact is.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106158 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:51 am to
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No, but if I remember correctly there were videos of someone entering .



So lets assume this is the video the neighbor previously showed the two guys who ended up murdering Arbery.

Is there any evidence that the person entering on the video was Arbery?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85379 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

It’s being inferred that I’m a racist redneck because I think these yokels will get off.


speaking of strawman...

Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

All your facts are wrong tho
It's okay. The reports say he made an aggressive turn and all parties were able to be included in witness statements.



Well, except for the kid who got blasted.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50489 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:53 am to
Not sure if this has already been posted in this thread.

Time Magazine Article

PDF of Police Incident Report
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65284 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:54 am to
quote:

You're speculation about why the police report says what it says and why the police didn't tell the mother the truth of what happened isn't based on facts. Unless you have a different idea of what a fact is.


I’m sorry, I’m not going to crucify cops for going on the only information they had when making the “mam, your son has been in an accident” call/visit.

You can argue the fact that they didn’t follow up with more details after the initial call/visit, but I don’t know the police procedures for disclosing info about an active investigation.
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