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re: All "Deep South" metro areas (MSAs) ranked by 2023 population (according to U.S. Census)
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:25 am to lsut2005
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:25 am to lsut2005
quote:I love how I am the dumbass yet the data 100% supports what I am saying.
Well I moved here 6 years ago and you’re wrong man. I live in Covington. It is a suburb of New Orleans no matter how you perceive it. You’re wrong and sound like a dumbass…..
They didn’t decide to make St. Tammany it’s own MSA for the first time for funsies. It’s based on empirical data
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 9:28 am
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
Measured during Covid… when nobody commuted…
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:35 am to lsut2005
And how did Covid skew these MSA stats?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:36 am to lsut2005
quote:You are wrong here man. If that was the case Metairie would not be be part of Nola, Zachary wouldn’t be part of BR, etc etc as nobody was commuting in there wither during Covid
Measured during Covid… when nobody commuted…
If that was the measurement and how they measured every single MSA would have lost all of its outside cities. You are trying to infer mandeville is the only city that was working remotely during Covid….
You can go read the OMB bulletin. They aren’t basing it off the 2020 Census, as it specifically mentions it’s an update to the census commuting data and survey
The American Commuting Survey is sent out MONTHLY to 250,000 Americans. So no, this ain’t based on Covid data. It’s based on up to date surveys
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:49 am to lsut2005
quote:Want to chime in now that you have been proven wrong?
lsut2005
It’s based on the American Community Survey which is updated on a monthly basis.
quote:
The American Community Survey (ACS) is an annual demographics survey program conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. It regularly gathers information previously contained only in the long form of the decennial census, including ancestry, US citizenship status, educational attainment, income, language proficiency, migration, disability, employment, and housing characteristics. These data are used by many public-sector, private-sector, and not-for-profit stakeholders to allocate funding, track shifting demographics, plan for emergencies, and learn about local communities
quote:
Sent to approximately 295,000 addresses monthly, or 3.5 million addresses annually, it is the largest household survey that the Census Bureau administers.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:52 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
But that makes zero sense
What
The Northshore is a part of the NOLA Metro area. Hammond is a stretch, but Slidell/Mandeville/Covington definitely are.
They would not exist if not for New Orleans. Slidell is very close to "New Orleans".
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
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The Northshore is a part of the NOLA Metro area
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:55 am to Govt Tide
Having lived in various Deep South Areas, Jacksonville is Deep South in all but location, IMO. And its just across the border from Georgia even then.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:25 am to lsupride87
quote:no one cares about "the american community survey"
It’s based on the American Community Survey which is updated on a monthly basis.
your statement that people from mandeville don't identify with new orleans is retarded and anyone who has spent more than few years there knows that
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:29 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Holy moved goalposts
your statement that people from mandeville don't identify with new orleans is retarded and anyone who has spent more than few years there knows that
Don’t “identify”? They are still all saints fans here. New Orleans is still “the city” for everyone here. I even said the most common way they would answer “where do you live” if asked by someone out of state is “Mandeville, about 30 minutes from New Orleans”
I’m simply stating mandeville “feels” like it’s own independent place now. It feels completely different then when I lived in river ridge. Not even remotely similar
And outside of my feelings, or your feelings, the actual empirical data represents it’s separate from Nola now, and not due to Covid data either
So if you want to point fingers at “wow your opinion is wrong”, that’s you, not me. Your opinion is the one disagreeing with the actual facts and data presented
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:32 am to lsupride87
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but you are full of shite saying people are saying they are from New Orleans right now and it feeling like a clear suburb of Nola
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:33 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeh, and I stand by that. People from mandeville aren’t saying they are from New Orleans and it isn’t a suburb of Nola. Once again, the actual facts and data support that.
You are free to claim differently just like you are free to disagree with anything else supported by actual evidence
You are free to claim differently just like you are free to disagree with anything else supported by actual evidence
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:34 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Hattiesburg does not have 150k people, for example. No frickin way
Well the MSA does. Hattiesburg itself has about $50k. Its the second biggest city in the state, after Jackson.
Interesting fact: In the next census of 2030 the city that will most likely leapfrog Hattiesburg as the second largest city in the state is.....Olive Branch. A place that essentially no one had ever heard of 20 years ago.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:35 am to No Colors
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Hattiesburg itself has about $50k. Its the second biggest city in the state, after Jackson.
Gulfport?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:36 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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your statement that people from mandeville don't identify with new orleans is retarded and anyone who has spent more than few years there knows that
I've spent more than a few years in west St. Tammany.
It was true 20 years ago.
It's not nearly as much, if at all now.
Edit: no need to insult anyone.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:37 am to GetMeOutOfHere
It’s not even an opinion
Mandeville is no longer a suburb of New Orleans. Sorry it makes anyone mad but it is what it is
quote:
A suburb (more broadly suburban area) is an area within a metropolitan area which is predominantly residential and within commuting distance of a large cit
Mandeville is no longer a suburb of New Orleans. Sorry it makes anyone mad but it is what it is
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Gulfport?
That's right, sorry. Meant to say third biggest. Gulfport has something like 80-90k? It went down after Katrina but I think it has come back somewhat since then? I don't get to the coast miuch
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:39 am to lsupride87
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Mandeville is no longer a suburb of New Orleans.
So what are the economic drivers of Mandeville not related to Nola's economic output?
WFH for a company in/providing services for Nola is still economic activity of Nola, FWIW.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Mandeville has multiple large scale companies completely independent of New Orleans, poolcorp and netchex being two of them. Mandeville/Covington also has two full service hospitals
So what are the economic drivers of Mandeville not related to Nola's economic output?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
Ok, let's tear down the unsafe Causeway bridge since they don't need the Southshore anymore.
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