re: Alex Jones ordered to pay Sandy Hook parents more than $4M

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Its an incredible display of tribalism. People want to be popular, not right.

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every single interaction in this thread with you has went this way

Rog: "well we should sue these people too"

other posters: "ok do it"

Rog: "why do y'all defend these people!!!"

You are making a lot of assumptions about somebody you don’t even know.

And y’all should support those lawsuits since you support this one.

Don’t try to deflect with your conspiracy word salad.

If you truly believe these entities have met the standard of a defamation lawsuit, why haven’t y’all sued?

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If somebody makes a thread discussing about 9/11 and it gets millions of views, and people from this site start “harassing” government officials because of it, how is that any different from what Alex Jones did?

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I’ll bite.

1. Public figures and government officials have to meet a higher burden to collect damages for defamation. A public figure has to prove that the defendant made the false statement despite knowing it was false, or that the defendant acted with “reckless disregard” for the truth.

2. Defamation requires the plaintiff to show that the false statements led to damages.

So in your scenario, someone “discussing about 9/11” as a generalization would probably not be defamatory unless the government official being harassed can prove:
1. That you knowingly made a false statement about that government official.
2. That your post led to their harassment.

So if you say “the government is lying about 9/11” and some nut job on the forum goes off and burns down the former FAA administrator’s house, that FAA administrator is going to have a really hard time proving you defamed him. You aren’t knowingly (hopefully) lying in a statement of fact. You didn’t even make the statement about the FAA administrator in particular, and it’s going to be hard to show that your statement led to the damages (his house burning down).

If you say “the FAA administrator at the time personally intervened to allow the terrorists to board the planes,” despite knowing the statement to be false, and some nut job from the forum burns his house down.. then the former FAA administrator very well might have a defamation claim against you. The hardest part would be proving that your false statement led to the damage (his house burning down).. which is why people with larger platforms/followings are more likely to be sued for defamation.

If you’re a pundit on a nationally-televised news program and you say “the FAA administrator at the time personally intervened to allow the terrorists to board the planes,” despite knowing that statement to be false, you’re much more likely to be sued for defamation and the damages are likely greater since a larger audience heard your false statement (meaning there was more damage to the victim’s reputation).

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wait, are we really still arguing these things aren’t being taught?

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Roger wants to file suit against teachers for doing so.

If it’s actually happening and the tenets of a defamation suit can be met, have at it.

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Its an incredible display of tribalism. People want to be popular, not right.

Jones definitely didn't help himself. He's not getting charged with a crime, its a lawsuit.

The entirety of opinion media is a travesty. Its always been, but was once confined to two pages of the newspaper. Now its mainstream and the primary source of information for most people.

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+100

Travesties of Justice are now par for the course...

Yes, it's easy to run with the pack of hyenas and lemmings. All they have to do to be "popular" is leap off the same cliff or gnaw on the same dead carcass.

And so, now the "WE ARE ONE!" insane Tribal cabal of losers can now rally together as one yuge Nutcase Collective that media opinion obviously has helped create.

The Jones case has become an amazing flashpoint for faux intellectuals and crusaders of "Justice".

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Naw. The GoFundMe focus needs to be elsewhere.

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Member when the PT was donating money to The Wall scam? I member.

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Member when the PT was donating money to The Wall scam? I member.

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not shocked.

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Salmon

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I'll give you this:

You are consistency out of your league and wrong on every issue. And somehow you can't avoid making nonsensical analogies

Other than that -- Atta boy!!