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re: Alabama places 'failing' label on majority black schools only

Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
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They came here just over 40 years ago and have done very well for themselves. Amazing considering they fled a war torn country and didn't speak English.

but they came post-civil rights and didn't face the institutional-legal discrimination that others did

chinese and japanese faced similar segregation to blacks of the 50s in some cases, slavery of the 19th century
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
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What about the Vietnamese. They came here just over 40 years ago and have done very well for themselves. Amazing considering they fled a war torn country and didn't speak English.



They have great food so we saved them from that stuff.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
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Tell me exactly how it has affected your life


Lets cut to the chase you really just want to say slavery had no bearing on me as a person today. It does not matter what examples I give you.

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keep in mind had your people not sold your ancestors into slavery you would most likely be living in Africa. I wonder if you would be better off...what do you think?


You say that as if it is a bad thing that I would have remained in Africa. I don't know where in Africa #SlaveDescendantProblems. I can only imagine what this world would be like if the Native Americans controlled their land and if Africa was not pillaged by outsiders.

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
Playing the blame game always helps.

Neighborhood doesn't have enough white people
White people move in
Too many whites driving up costs
Whites leave
Neighborhood in shambles because of white flight
Whites move back in
Costs too high. We want our old neighborhood back
Whites leave
Crime, drugs, violence....obviously b/c of white flight

Apply the same to the schools these idiots are complaining about. Moral of the story is that these kids are already a lost cause because their parents, "pastors", and city leaders won't ever own up to anything.


Notice key words that get everyone excited:
Transparency
Accountability
Segregation
White flight
Probably have "common sense" in there somewhere

Most of this racism hoopla was kicked into high gear by Obama. Look how much better we are 8 years later
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
Lack of funding, quality teachers, adequate learning environment, etc. The American system of government does exist. It was never designed in this nation for black people. The system was built on racism and is maintained by racism. I have zero issues with aid, but the problem is the genesis from which the aid comes from.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15390 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:16 pm to
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shaming of that culture


Which is called discrimination and deemed illegal.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:16 pm to
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old black men dropping N-bombs is one of my favorite things, esp if sheltered white friends of mine are around (they get scared)



They really mean it when they say it too.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:17 pm to
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He and 805 seem like good people. I think both are educated


Agreed. And you're right, I have never understood it. Personally, I think if a race wants to be held to a certain (or equal) standard, then everyone should hold them to that standard, barring excuses. I am quicker to condemn a white man than a black man because statistically speaking, I expect more from a white man. Just my POV though.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:18 pm to
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I am quicker to condemn a white man than a black man because statistically speaking, I expect more from a white man. Just my POV though.



Thats a scary thought
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:18 pm to
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the other option could be shaming of that culture


This is the ONLY real option, but the one least likely to happen as anyone who criticizes it is labeled racist.

The culture is not only not criticized, but celebrated by politicians, black leaders, musicians, and everyone else making a buck off of their situation. The very people who could and should be teaching them how to overcome their condition are profiting by them staying in it.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:18 pm to
There are many reasons for the school's failures. Racism is low on the list.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:20 pm to
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There are many reasons for the school's failures. Racism is low on the list.


Who are you, and what have you done with Afreaux?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15390 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Lets cut to the chase you really just want to say slavery had no bearing on me as a person today. It does not matter what examples I give you.


Has it? I mean really, not in some existential way.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:22 pm to
What.the.frick? Somebody had to have stolen your computer
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Thats a scary thought


The truth hurts. That is just how I feel about it though. One man's opinion means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And FWIW, I have many black friends, one of which is one of my closest friends.(before I get called racist)
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:24 pm to
i see. i thought you were black from the response
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:24 pm to
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so all white people are wealthy? who is painting with the broad brush now?

I can't think of one nation that the people that are wealthy didn't do things to step over others to gain that wealth and power. Do you know of such a place?





You are 100% right I was wrong to generalize a whole race like that. I do not know of one place like that but its one thing for those events to transpire but to do it and free yourself from any of there results of your actions is pretty shitty. (When I say you I mean the wealthy).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:24 pm to
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It was never designed in this nation for black people. The system was built on racism and is maintained by racism.

then explain how asians do better than white people

you keep speaking in generalities without much specifics

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Lack of funding, quality teachers, adequate learning environment, etc.

how do you want to address teh funding issues? many black schools already receive disproportionately high funding when all funding is considered

i won't blame teachers but you can feel free to do so

and how is the local school board/school responsible for the "adequate learning environment" instead of the students and parents? i mean hell if you want to go one layer deeper, the federal government and its anti-discrimination programs re: mental disabilities (which have exploded due to disability checks) handcuff schools a great deal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:26 pm to
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They really mean it when they say it too.

i have some black friends on FB that go OFF on people of the lower class mentality (of all races)

one of them posted this pic on FB a few days ago

Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4557 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:27 pm to
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i won't blame teachers but you can feel free to do so



I agree, but we can't take you seriously since your mom is a teacher....
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