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re: Alabama lawmakers give passage to 3rd grade reading bill: must read to move to 4th grade
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:06 am to OleWar
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:06 am to OleWar
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The south is so racist
Please expound.
when this law gets implemented, the majority of students that get held back will be minorities
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:07 am to East Coast Band
It's worked in Mississippi. Cause a big improvement in NAEP scores for fourth graders.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:11 am to prplhze2000
In needs to be taken a step further and track these students based on standardized performance.
What’s the point of failing a kid if you are just going to put them back into the same level class?
Our education model is foolish for a number of reasons, one being that we tie academic ability to age for the first ten years or so of education. We take seven year olds and teach them all the same thing at the same speed despite the fact that it holds some back because they are beyond those skills and sets some up for failure because they will never be able to keep pace.
What’s the point of failing a kid if you are just going to put them back into the same level class?
Our education model is foolish for a number of reasons, one being that we tie academic ability to age for the first ten years or so of education. We take seven year olds and teach them all the same thing at the same speed despite the fact that it holds some back because they are beyond those skills and sets some up for failure because they will never be able to keep pace.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:13 am to dcbl
Are the other 16 states racist also?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:14 am to Antonio Moss
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One of the most interesting studies looked at the amount of words parents used in the home based on their education levels and measured their children’s long term language results. Parents with advanced degrees used an exponentially higher variety of words in the home and the results in their children’s long term performance versus children from less educated parents was staggering.
I have a high school degree. My wife has an undergrad and is a 7th-8th grade teacher. Social Studies. Now, I have the advantage of having a dad with a journalism degree who taught me how to write and how important reading is, but I don't have any advanced degree to back up what I am going to say next.
My son won his pre school "sight words" contest by knowing 96 of 99 words that they introduce them to over the year. My daughter got 3rd the previous year with 87/99.
Not doubting this study as it makes tons of sense, but never doubt genetic advantages when it comes to intelligence. Some kids are just naturally smarter than others, meaning they absorb info more easily and retain it longer than other kids.
Mental horsepower is probably the most significant factor, but no one likes to form a scientific study claiming that some kids are smart and others are dumb, even when it is true. Smart, curious kids find a way to learn. Dumb kids need more training and help, and if their parents don't help, then they can be lost easily.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:15 am to alajones
Always
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:16 am to ShoeBang
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Not doubting this study as it makes tons of sense, but never doubt genetic advantages when it comes to intelligence. Some kids are just naturally smarter than others, meaning they absorb info more easily and retain it longer than other kids.
And they most likely come from highly educated, high-IQ parents. However, there are still environmental factors at play.
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Mental horsepower is probably the most significant factor, but no one likes to form a scientific study claiming that some kids are smart and others are dumb, even when it is true.
Those studies exist but they do not discount the role of environment.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:26 am to alajones
quote:I'm not making the claim, just answering a question
Are the other 16 states racist also?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:28 am to dcbl
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when this law gets implemented, the majority of students that get held back will be minorities
Perhaps it will be generational. Perhaps this law will do what it's aiming to do and actually force everyone to actually learn to read.
Imagine if a generation from now every adult, among all races, is literate. How much better will it be for that next generation growing up in a home with a literate parent or two?
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