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Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:50 pm to Snipe
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Its a problem and need to be delt with.
But how do you deal with it? It borders on thought crime, and the only way to police it is to become some nanny state like Great Britain.
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I'm not a big supporter of waiting till kids are raped until you do something. If you do it at all. I'm sure we can all agree that sexually molesting children is bad and should be prevented at all cost.
I agree. Same with murder. But again…how do you police it. This board doesn’t like red flag laws when they are brought up as a way to possibly prevent school shooters and the like.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:58 pm to TexasTiger08
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But how do you deal with it? It borders on thought crime, and the only way to police it is to become some nanny state like Great Britain.
When you're printing out child porn material and likely sharing it with your deviant friends you go to jail.
Arguing over AI and is it really child porn is just normalizing this sick behavior.
I'm pretty sure no one in their right mind would be ok with some dude (or chick) who was into making AI generated child porn working in their child's school or daycare. Why do you think that would be if AI generated child porn is not really child porn?
I don't even know what you mean with the murder correlation. If someone is planning a murder and the police are tipped off and they find credible evidence that yes they were planning to murder someone the person gets arrested and charged accordingly.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:18 pm to Snipe
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I don't even know what you mean with the murder correlation. If someone is planning a murder and the police are tipped off and they find credible evidence that yes they were planning to murder someone the person gets arrested and charged accordingly.
That’s not really a valid comparison. The same applies to someone who is caught planning to sexually abuse a child.
It would be more like arresting someone for somehow fantasizing about brutally murdering people (who don’t exist). I’m not sure there’s a perfect comp.
Totally agree with the point about not wanting someone who does this to work at a daycare, or school, or whatever. But there’s plenty of red-flag behavior out there that doesn’t amount to an actual crime. The thing I struggle with is.. who is the victim?
I say this assuming it’s not a case where someone made deepfakes of actual minors.. which I can’t really verify because OP’s YouTube embed doesn’t work and I don’t see a link.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:32 pm to Snipe
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Anyone who has the propensity to create and or look at AI generated child porn has in the past or will in the future abuse children.
This. If the urge is there it doesn't matter if its real or AI generated, they are a threat to any kid they are around.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:32 pm to i am dan
AI material of this type is akin to making a threat, which can also be illegal. Anyone who would enjoy such material is a threat to society and is expressing a desire to act upon it
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:41 pm to i am dan
I guess on the positive side (if there is one), no kids are harmed, but it's still sick as frick and we don't need people like that in society.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:54 pm to Snipe
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If someone is planning a murder and the police are tipped off and they find credible evidence that yes they were planning to murder someone the person gets arrested and charged accordingly.
I typed this in reference to some school shootings where the killer has posted and written that they want to “kill everyone at their school”, without naming specific names. I was in support of some laws that would target that behavior, but was in the minority.
The same logic, when applied to child porn, seems to yield a different opinion.
I’m not in favor of pedos roaming the streets, but it’s important to identify the crime committed. Art, literature, etc is protected under free speech laws. It’s a very slippery slope when you want to police the drawings of a person.
Yes, AI is a bit of a different animal since it’s generated from actual online photos.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:05 pm to OweO
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This. If the urge is there it doesn't matter if its real or AI generated, they are a threat to any kid they are around.
It really is that simple.
I choose to believe that the people defending this sick behavior just have an axe to grind with Snipe and are not really sick enough to excuse or defend child rapists. Whether or not they have raped a child yet or not is irrelevant. When you exhibit certain behavior you should be taken seriously.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:29 pm to Snipe
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I choose to believe that the people defending this sick behavior just have an axe to grind with Snipe and are not really sick enough to excuse or defend child rapists.
Nobody’s defending, but your words are making terrible arguments. You’ve gone from AI child porn to child rapists. Not everyone who possesses kiddie porn has raped a child. Those are two different crimes that carry two different sentences.
My only argument is that in order to pursue these people, you risk taking the idea of the surveillance to a new level…that’s IF some perv is NOT sharing materials.
I mean, do you call some hotline saying you think your neighbor is a pervert and have the cops come looking for materials?
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:32 pm to i am dan
This is such a slippery slope. I think cartoons are not against the law obviously the real stuff is, but with AI becoming so sophisticated there is going to become a point (if we’re not already there) where we won’t be able to tell the difference between AI and real.
I’ve seen some regular videos of people playing sports and just doing random activities that I would swear on my dead father‘s grave is real, but it was pure AI, I don’t think that sex videos are very far behind
I’ve seen some regular videos of people playing sports and just doing random activities that I would swear on my dead father‘s grave is real, but it was pure AI, I don’t think that sex videos are very far behind
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:34 pm to TexasTiger08
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You’ve gone from AI child porn to child rapists. Not everyone who possesses kiddie porn has raped a child.
You're normalizing this sick deviant behavior. I'm very curious as to why that is.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:34 pm to Snipe
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It really is that simple.
I choose to believe that the people defending this sick behavior just have an axe to grind with Snipe and are not really sick enough to excuse or defend child rapists. Whether or not they have raped a child yet or not is irrelevant. When you exhibit certain behavior you should be taken seriously.
Nobody is defending child rapists, you just haven't put together a cogent argument as to why or why not these acts should be crimes
Posted on 12/3/25 at 2:39 pm to Turnblad85
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What happens when a man is put before a jury because he made ai of a supposedly 18yo but also could be 17? Then the out of the 12 jurors are 8 females over the age of 40. Dude might have to register as an offender for making legal images that a group of Karens thinks is bad no matter what.
Damn, this is so true. A guy could legitimately say that he had his AI program create a young girl who is 24 but looks 17
Legally, the AI girl “is” 24 but AI created something that a Karen or some crazy progressive thinks is underage… now he goes to jail, I think we’re going to see some pretty fricked up cases in the near future.
For the record, I think all of this is some sick and twisted shite, but I think there are going to be some new laws were written around intent for producing AI content
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:33 pm to Snipe
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You're normalizing this sick deviant behavior. I'm very curious as to why that is.
Yeah man, that’s exactly what I’m doing :eye roll:
No…I’m trying to have a logical discussion involving laws and ethics with someone who is only interested in judgement based on emotions and feelings. Seems like you want big brother with a camera on your arse.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:36 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
FWIW - I think the targeted folks aren’t the ones toeing the line between 17 and 18 years of age, rather the ones going for younger ages.
I think we will face similar issues with sex dolls becoming more realistic. What happens when some 35 year old male gets a detailed sex doll that looks like some 14-year old?
I think we will face similar issues with sex dolls becoming more realistic. What happens when some 35 year old male gets a detailed sex doll that looks like some 14-year old?
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:39 pm to Corner Pocket
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Nobody is defending child rapists, you just haven't put together a cogent argument as to why or why not these acts should be crimes
Exactly. It’s hard for me to think this is a crime when it goes on in your own home and there are no victims. Yes…it is not normal behavior, and I suspect many people engaging in this behavior would cross over to real victims, but it’s a terrible precedent when you advocate for arresting someone because you THINK they are likely to molest a child, as sick as that is. Applying that logic to other crimes is even worse.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:58 pm to Rockabilly Hoodlum
quote:Best laugh I’ve had this week.
Somewhere out in the world a subreddit is wondering why their moderator has vanished
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:05 pm to Rex Feral
quote:So, that means the AI servers would have to access massive amounts of child porn.
It should be. AI generates images from a massive number of real images.
That sounds highly illegal to me.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:06 pm to RealDawg
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I will always be on the outside with the view that making, viewing or possessing something not real criminal is very dangerous. How is this different than reading a book? It simply isn’t real. Gross, perverted and immoral but not illegal.
So if someone puts an AI picture of your daughter on a naked body and and bunch of dudes railing her, that’s okay…because it’s not real?
Then shares it with the whole High School and calls it something like, “Shelley likes to ride” when your daughters name is Kelly….that’s cool with you cause it’s not real??
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