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re: After historic tax cuts, Texas lawmakers evaluate eliminating property taxes entirely
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:39 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:39 pm to ragincajun03
All the moochers that want equity, well here's your freaking equity. You'll pay the same as the rest of us via sales tax.
Gonna be riots if this happens and I'm here for it any the sweet salty tears it will produce.
Gonna be riots if this happens and I'm here for it any the sweet salty tears it will produce.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:41 pm to Tigeralum2008
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My initial thought is paying 22% for all my purchases would actually increase my tax liability for the year compared to the property taxes I pay
Sales taxes, for the most part, are completely controllable outside the necessities.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to jizzle6609
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Sales taxes, for the most part, are completely controllable outside the necessities.
Which is actually a terrible thing.
Like income tax, sales tax is a wet blanket on productivity.
A true conservative thinker accepts ad valorem property tax before any other.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:47 pm to jizzle6609
Did they account for a sales tax on the purchase of real estate? I would think by applying the current sales tax of 6.25% to all real estate purchases a substantial amount of money would be raised every year.
In addition cutting out the CAD bureaucracy would be a savings.
And at the end of the day you would own your property outright and not have to deal with the stress of the current property tax system.
In addition cutting out the CAD bureaucracy would be a savings.
And at the end of the day you would own your property outright and not have to deal with the stress of the current property tax system.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:53 pm to jclem11
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Land is scarce. How would NYC look if you banned apartments like you want?
This is about Texas, not the isle of Manhattan.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to DarthRebel
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This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:57 pm to Dairy Sanders
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This is about Texas, not the isle of Manhattan.
LOL.
I think folks from Texas, and many other Southern states don't even ponder the existence of New York, California, etc. They have literally become lost causes.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:05 pm to ragincajun03
They could do a combo that makes it attractive to most people.
Phase out property taxes after 5 years of ownership. Increase sales taxes to something reasonable like 8.5%. implement a 2% income tax with a 100k/200k exemption.
The specific numbers can be adjusted to fit the budget.
Also, reduce state spending as much as possible so the tax cut funding can be reduced.
Phase out property taxes after 5 years of ownership. Increase sales taxes to something reasonable like 8.5%. implement a 2% income tax with a 100k/200k exemption.
The specific numbers can be adjusted to fit the budget.
Also, reduce state spending as much as possible so the tax cut funding can be reduced.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I’ve never met a renter who didn’t pay for the owner’s property tax bill.
Let’s say a company owns multi family units and gets their appraisal. They go appeal and oh look your golfing buddy is there.
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Appealing property valuations to government agencies for tax relief has been a tried-and-true way that apartment owners have reduced costs over the years. But that isn’t the only thing driving down costs. Texas has taken steps to reduce the tax burdens on apartment owners.
While the renters might pay it, these owners of complexes might get a more favorable ruling than the random family with no connections.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:10 pm to ragincajun03
Sounds better than Arkansas. We pay like 10% sales tax, 7% state income tax, and also pay property tax and personal property tax.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:36 pm to Limitlesstigers
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Renters pay it too.
All right, it has been pointed out I was incorrect
What I would like to see, how much the burden is rent vs. home owner. The high density living options are stressing and overloading the school districts here.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:38 pm to dgnx6
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Appealing property valuations to government agencies for tax relief has been a tried-and-true way that apartment owners have reduced costs over the years.
I think every property owner in texas does this every year.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I think every property owner in texas does this every year.
Yep, there's an entire industry around it. I use Bettencourt every year.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:21 pm to Dairy Sanders
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This is about Texas, not the isle of Manhattan.
The dude said limit apartments to 20% as an absolute. That is not practical in any urban environment, even in Texas.
It's a valid question, genius.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:22 pm to CDUBTX
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They just need to lower the property tax rate some and quit letting these appraisal districts raise your home value every year.
Totally agree. They say my house is worth more every year since ive been in about 12 years and every year I write a bigger check for more property taxes. It needs to stop!!
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:24 pm to jclem11
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The dude said limit apartments to 20% as an absolute
No he didn’t.
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That is not practical in any urban environment, even in Texas.
Yes it is.
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It's a valid question, genius.
You’re not valid
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:48 pm to ragincajun03
I get people who pay a lot in property tax supporting this, but there is another trade-off here:
Eliminating property taxes could cause an explosive in sales tax and consumption fees. People mostly think of sales taxes on groceries and restaurants, but not sales taxes on construction materials and commodities. The cost of services will significantly increase since many companies (and possibly utilities and public agencies depending on what is tax exempt) will pay significantly more for materials and supplies and pass those on to consumers. Think about the additional costs of that small bathroom renovation with higher taxes. If this happens many middle-class and up families could end up paying more than their yearly property tax bill in additional taxes.
Last, this would severely impact real estate markets and drive up housing costs even more. While not a fan of tax sales they contribute significantly to real estate redevelopment projects. Additionally, developers will now pay significantly more to develop new projects in large part to additional taxes on supplies and materials.
Eliminating property taxes could cause an explosive in sales tax and consumption fees. People mostly think of sales taxes on groceries and restaurants, but not sales taxes on construction materials and commodities. The cost of services will significantly increase since many companies (and possibly utilities and public agencies depending on what is tax exempt) will pay significantly more for materials and supplies and pass those on to consumers. Think about the additional costs of that small bathroom renovation with higher taxes. If this happens many middle-class and up families could end up paying more than their yearly property tax bill in additional taxes.
Last, this would severely impact real estate markets and drive up housing costs even more. While not a fan of tax sales they contribute significantly to real estate redevelopment projects. Additionally, developers will now pay significantly more to develop new projects in large part to additional taxes on supplies and materials.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:48 pm to Dairy Sanders
Apartments are more often than not a blight on the community after 20 years.
I’ve seen cities that didn’t allow them. Guess what, they aren’t having the same crime problems and school issues as towns that do. It is an “inconvenient truth” to borrow a phrase from the progressives.
Anyway, as typical this thread is way off what the original discussion was.
I’ve seen cities that didn’t allow them. Guess what, they aren’t having the same crime problems and school issues as towns that do. It is an “inconvenient truth” to borrow a phrase from the progressives.
Anyway, as typical this thread is way off what the original discussion was.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:08 pm to GeauxTigers123
What impact would a city like Houston or Dallas banning apartments have?
Where are the folks earning $60K as a household supposed to live?
Please tell the class how an urban environment can successfully ban apartments from being built.
Where are the folks earning $60K as a household supposed to live?
Please tell the class how an urban environment can successfully ban apartments from being built.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:24 pm to jclem11
Some towns do. Even in DFW. Working class end up living in a neighboring town.
I didn’t say it will ever happen, but if I was designing a town to be nice I would have a low number of rentals.
I didn’t say it will ever happen, but if I was designing a town to be nice I would have a low number of rentals.
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