re: African Lion vs Siberian Tiger - Fight to the Death - Who you got?

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Are you retarded? did you read your post?

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Are you retarded? I simply went to wikipedia for LION vs TIGER and posted events when Lions killed tigers. Nothing more

siberian tigers are the baddest cats on the planet

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Yep. They said Tigers' kill shot is to stalk their prey, and bite behind the neck, where the Lion's mane would help protect, so the lion would win most of the time due to its experience and that built in defense.

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I think the show you're talking about was called Animal Face-off. It was on the Discovery Channel.

It was with the smaller Bengal Tiger that maxes out around 550 lbs.

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Lion.
The mane will help in a fight. The lion thinks that it can win and tigers are a bit more cautious around lions. Lion in a unanimous decision

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• The conservation charity Save China's Tigers stated "Recent research indicates that the tiger is indeed stronger than the lion in terms of physical strength. Lions hunt in prides, so it would be in a group and the tiger as a solitary creature so it would be on its own. A tiger is generally physically larger than a lion. Most experts would favor a Siberian and Bengal tiger over an African lion."[15]

• John Smith Clarke, a British lion tamer, said, in a lecture on the fight between a tiger and a lion given to the Glasgow Zoological Society, while showing the actual fight on the screen, "in 100 cases out of 100 the tiger would always beat the lion. It was far more agile, it was not so clumsy in its movements, it was equally strong, it was equally armed, but it fought in a different way. The tiger very often fought rolling on its back and held the lion in its grip until it defeated him."[16]

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Tiger. Male lions don't really get down like that unless their pride is threatened. Tiger will beat him not only in size but experience.

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Tiger will beat him not only in size but experience.

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That's all male lions are built for...fighting shite, hell those lazy bastards don't even hunt much...tigers face nothing close to its status in Asia...

Lions fight hyenas, honey badgers, elephants, hippos, crocs, manticores, sphynxes

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Despite similarities, they're different kinds of cats. Both species do fight other cats for territory, but the adult male lion is more specifically built for this sort of combat. Now, some of the tiger varieties do grow quite large and size matters in this sort of combat.

The male tiger is going to be a better overall athlete than a male lion is, but these contests will vary more due to the difference in individuals (like different prize fighters, for example), than either species having a particular advantage.

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Solid post. Here is the most famous account of a lion vs a tiger. It's brutal and kind of sad. Pulled from wikipedia (long):

Atlas the Barbary lion versus the Bengal tiger of Simla
In India, towards the end of the 19th Century, the Gaekwad of Baroda arranged a fight between a Barbary lion called "Atlas," from the Atlas Mountains between Algeria and Morocco, and a man-eating Bengal tiger from the Indian region of Shimla, before an audience of thousands. It was to determine whether the lion or the tiger should be called "King of the Cat Family," or if the lion deserved the title "King of Beasts."

The tiger was more than 10.0 feet (300 centimetres) long, over 4.0 feet (120 centimetres) at the shoulder, had long teeth and claws, besides strong shoulders, and was agile. People considered it to be the biggest man-eater that they ever saw in India.

Atlas looked taller at the head than the tiger, and had a large mane, legs, and paws. It was described by Gettysburg Compiler (1899) as being "much superior to the black-maned lions of South Africa (themselves described as being among the largest lions) in bulk and bravery," that it, or its subspecies, was "the largest or most formidable of all African felidae ...An English Colonel called 'Maitland', who supported the tiger, described the lion as a 'monster'.

The fight

Round One

The tiger crawled forward, crouched flat and calculated the distance for a spring at Atlas. Atlas' tail lashed at its sides, as it gave a deep roar and waited for the tiger to attack. The tiger sprang at Atlas, which then rose up on its hind legs, and crashed with the tiger. The two yelled, snarled and rolled over on the ground. They regained their feet and shook to be free. When they parted from the clinch, Atlas swung his right, clawed, paw on the tiger's head, ripping its ear, and scratching off skin. The tiger rolled off. Atlas went to get it, and swiped its paw, but the tiger managed to twist away from Atlas' paw-swipe, and escaped. Then Atlas advanced, but the tiger retreated.


Round Two

The tiger jumped into the air, landing on Atlas' back, though Atlas was about 20.0 feet (6.1 metres) away. At first, Atlas looked disgusted, but then it forced the tiger to the wall of the arena. However, the tiger did not decide to escape again, rather, it ran, with its head nearly at the ground, towards Atlas' legs. Despite a crash, the tiger's head did not shake, and the two cats rose on their hind legs. For at least three minutes, they exchanged right and left paw-swipes. The tiger's paw-swipes were faster than those of Atlas, outnumbering Atlas' paw-swipes three-to-one. Atlas' paw-swipes had been heavier, inflicting deeper gashes on the tiger's hide, than those of the tiger to Atlas' hide.

Both cats injured, they retreated from each other. Blood flew from their flanks. The tiger retreated to the wall, to hug it, whereas Atlas stood his ground, even though blood was dripping from about twenty wounds, and roared ferociously.

Round Three

After resting for a few moments, the tiger tried to circle Atlas, with Atlas looking worried, as his rushes did not stop the tiger at first. Then, sensing an opportunity, Atlas charged, but the tiger avoided the charge, and jumped onto Atlas’ back again. Their bodies, bloodied and dirtied by the dust, rolled halfway across the arena. Atlas shook himself off the tiger, and delivered right swipes. One of the swipes dealt a blow to the tiger, causing it to stagger and retreat.

After retreating, the tiger sat, studying how effective the previous tussle was. Atlas was mauled, but not yet killed, with two long rips on his back, having deep bites to the shoulder, which bled, and he panted hoarsely, with the wind flowing less evidently than that of the tiger.

Round Four

After observing Atlas for a moment, the tiger tried circling Atlas again. Atlas rushed, facing the tiger's claws. After the tussle, the lion, running out of breath, sank to his knees. The tiger, though it looked stronger, had its stripes disappear under fast-flowing blood.

Round Five

The tiger sprang onto Atlas, who now staggered. It bit Atlas' nose, then tried to bite Atlas' throat. However, the mane saved Atlas' neck, so the tiger's bite did not suffocate Atlas. Instead, as they wrestled much, the tiger managed to get hair in its mouth, and the hair interfered with the tiger's respiration, so it had to release its hold on Atlas, allowing Atlas to deliver a massive left uppercut. The uppercut caused the tiger to stumble to about 20.0 feet (6.1 metres) away.

Round Six
The tiger circled Atlas like a snake. Although Atlas looked formidable and brave, he could not follow the tiger's motions. Then the tiger charged at Atlas. Atlas used his claws, but he missed the tiger, and went over with it. The tiger frantically pawed Atlas' body, using both fore and hind paws, for forty seconds. However, Atlas managed to throw the tiger off, but then Atlas tried to roar, before falling down and dying.

Atlas the Barbary lion versus the Bengal tiger of Simla

Does it protect it from being over 20% smaller than a Siberian?

The real fight would be between a female lion and a Jaguar. Jaguars have to be kept separated from other cats. Trainers accidentally put one in a cage of big cats at a zoo in Germany. It killed two female lions before they could get it seperated from the other cats.