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re: Advice for factory ordering a vehicle- negotiating tips, deposits, etc.

Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:55 pm to
None of that happened.
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:04 pm to
I got a new car this summer. Dealer had to find and trade it with another dealership (not a car with a much inventory). I got it for the True Car suggestion and really didn't play hardball. Not sure if this is identical but I left the dealer feeling like I did OK.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:05 pm to
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None of that happened.


I mean, okay? Not sure what you want me to say because it did and it was what I expected. I contacted a good family friend, (who I bought my very first vehicle years ago from) he signed me up for the gm supplier friend discount (which basicslly bought the MSRP down to invoice) and he put me in contact with two of his buddies who would honor that, including the gm military discount. You are obviously one who can't be wrong so, continue living blissfully. I do appreciate your contribution to the thread
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:10 pm to
Depends on the demand for the car in question...

New models are tougher to make deals on than other models.

Also, if you are a bit flexible on colors and options.

Additionally, dealers want to move highdollar stuff off of their floorplans,

Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:11 pm to
Please update when you finish your deal and own the truck. I'd like to know that's possible.
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1459 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:13 pm to
It was a brand new 16 with <5 cars with the specs I wanted within 500 miles (at least that's what the salesman told me).

Acura, fwiw.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:14 pm to
Man, if you say it fine, but I would move cautiously.

It may not be the deal you think when you roll out.

If you are trading in a vehicle, triple-check your numbers.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:15 pm to
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Just wanted to update you since your so invested in providing incorrect information. I got off the phone with my good friend who was a gm manager and he put me in touch with two other individuals who are willing to give me $2k off MSRP and the gm military discount.


Haven't read the whole thread, but unless it's a small car, only 2K off MSRP for a Chevy is a ripoff.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:17 pm to
And you know what I mean by new model, right?

New bodystyle and/or new offering. (like what OP is buying).
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:18 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:17 pm to
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Please update when you finish your deal and own the truck. I'd like to know that's possible.




Will do. My next major update will probably be at the end of the month. I didn't want to start contacting folks until then but I had itchy fingers after searching cars.com and the Chevy forum. I told my friend I won't execute negotiations until a week or two and emailed his contacts that as well.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:18 pm to
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Haven't read the whole thread, but unless it's a small car, only 2K off MSRP for a Chevy is a ripoff.


That's all relative
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:21 pm to
No, he's doing well to get that off the new model.

He couldn't do that on diesel.

My concern for him is that if he's trading in, they will lowball his trade and make up that $2K.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:22 pm to
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Man, if you say it fine, but I would move cautiously.



Rightfully so. I just wish you would understand that I'm not the first one to do this. Earlier this afternoon I read through a whole forum on folks who have done it.

quote:

If you are trading in a vehicle, triple-check your numbers.


Haven't even mentioned trading anything in yet. Which is the main reason I'm holding off for a few weeks. Want to sell private party or go to carmax and some other smaller local shops to see what I can get first.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:28 pm to
I don't disagree that many have done this.

I am just saying that on limited allocation vehicles or on in demand vehicles, it is much tougher to get deep discounts.

And as you've determined, local dealers are unwilling to give much off of in-stock inventory.

(see Tacoma for example)
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:41 pm to
I know I'm way late to this thread, but I ordered my current f150 in 2013


I negotiated the dealer discount before ordering and knew the rebates would float

Ended up putting 500 deposit and got 10,750 off MSRP at time of purchase.

I also traded in my truck and got a decent number on it. The only thing that bothered me is that they wouldn't negotiate my trade until the new truck arrived.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:46 pm to
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I am just saying that on limited allocation vehicles or on in demand vehicles, it is much tougher to get deep discounts.



I'm no car dealer but I think the reason behind limited allocation has a lot to do with being able to negotiate. For example, special edition and high end vehicles are limited intentionally for purposes of value and exclusiveness, thus no coming off of prices and sometime you have to pay more than what they ask for.

In my instance I feel like the vehicle is limited in my region because 1) as a few mentioned earlier in the thread there isn't a big market for the vehicle 2) Chevy is testing the waters with having a midsize compete with the like of Tacoma's and they don't want to overdo it. So gm dealers are more willing to do the order and negotiate.

You wont see a whole fleet of colorado's on a Chevy lot like you see the silverados, not because they are rare and exclusive, but because they are testing the market. Just my thoughts.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:51 pm
Posted by willythedemon11
Member since Aug 2007
256 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:59 pm to
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I'm not sure they would let you finalize all the paperwork prior to delivery, but I wouldn't recommend it anyway.


You can't finalize paperwork on something that does not yet have a VIN.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40335 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:08 pm to
Agree with all that and that has been my experience with Corvettes and Jaguars, especially.

The truck you are looking at has proven to be much more in demand than GM anticipated and since they can only build so many, supplies are limited.

The poster above referenced a F150 and while that's a fine vehicle, they have plenty of supply (Ford sells 500K per year).. In addition, the 2013 was not a "new" model.

Now, if you were willing to wait a year (not saying you should) you will probably get a much better deal.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:54 pm to
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I really don't think the OP has ever bought a new car. No offense to him, but you can't always get a better price.


I just closed the deal on my new factory ordered truck. MSRP: $43531 Out-the-Door: $40,015. How do I know the MSRP is legit? Because I built the truck.
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