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Accounting vs Sales beef
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:12 pm
I've heard sales call accounting "business prevention" and other slander from accounting directed toward sales. Anyone have some experience with this rivalry?
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:15 pm to jcolding41
GTFO Jared. I already apologized for embarrassing you with the Christmas mug thing last year.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:15 pm to jcolding41
Probably because sales just want to get the deal done to cut their commission. They may not care about making certain margins as long as they are getting a cut of something.
Accounting see this and doesn’t want the company to lose money. Therefore they call sales out and want them to increase margins. This could be what they call “business prevention”. Just a guess though.
Accounting see this and doesn’t want the company to lose money. Therefore they call sales out and want them to increase margins. This could be what they call “business prevention”. Just a guess though.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:16 pm to jcolding41
I used to deal with it when I worked for a distributor. Accounting/credit always putting holds on contractor accounts because of credit limit reached or large orders placed and always had me asking customers for payments on account.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:25 pm to jcolding41
Compliance/legal
GFY
GFY
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:27 pm to jcolding41
I don’t find people in sales and accounting ever really interacting.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:30 pm to Jj283
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Probably because sales just want to get the deal done to cut their commission. They may not care about making certain margins as long as they are getting a cut of something.
Real salesmen are paid on margin.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:34 pm to jcolding41
Why would accounting dictate something like a schedule A? A deal shouldn't die in the hands of accounting.
Are you referring to more of a CFO level?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:35 pm to jcolding41
HR is the real enemy
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:35 pm to jcolding41
quote:. Bullshitting do nothings vs hair splitting nerds. Age old battle, son.
Accounting vs Sales beef
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:36 pm to jcolding41
I'm sitting in IT laughing at all of them because they don't know how to reset their passwords on-time every 90 days without getting locked out.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:37 pm to jcolding41
I had a manager explain it years ago in perfect fashion. Sales is the engine, it drives the revenue, the profit, the growth. You have the necessary train cars dragging you down, accounting, HR, IT, that produce zero revenue. The day the rest stops the engine is the day it all fails.
Now that still doesn't explain why any salesperson would take a negative deal or why a company would reward that. No comp plans are that dumb nowadays.
Now that still doesn't explain why any salesperson would take a negative deal or why a company would reward that. No comp plans are that dumb nowadays.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:05 pm to tigburls
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had a manager explain it years ago in perfect fashion. Sales is the engine, it drives the revenue, the profit, the growth. You have the necessary train cars dragging you down, accounting, HR, IT, that produce zero revenue. The day the rest stops the engine is the day it all fails.
I had a pretty successful business owner once tell me he fired all of his outside sales people because they couldn’t sell anything without a deer hunt and/or cutting the price. There are a lot of people in sales who think they’re the shite but really can’t get by without those crutches.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:07 pm to jcolding41
back-office 
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:17 pm to jcolding41
If sales spent nearly as much time selling to customers as they do selling bullshite internally there’d be no rivalry.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:22 pm to Swoopin
Some salesman also have a great knack of promising all kinds of stuff the company/team isn't equipped to follow through on. Makes for a lot of manual work and pissed off employees that actually get things done. Just my experience though
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:43 pm to jcolding41
“Selling” something you can’t collect cash on is a giveaway and a waste of company resources. This is why credit/collections is there to hold up the deal if it stinks.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:47 pm to jcolding41
It happens between every department and sales.
Sales is full of Shady fricks who over promise everything. They frick over accounting, purchasing, operations/production, IT, and so on just to get the sale.
Sales is full of Shady fricks who over promise everything. They frick over accounting, purchasing, operations/production, IT, and so on just to get the sale.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:11 pm to jcolding41
Just raise my customer’s credit limit for this order and give me my expense check ya fkn nerd
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:37 pm to mikelbr
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Sales is full of Shady fricks who over promise everything. They frick over accounting, purchasing, operations/production, IT, and so on just to get the sale.
And engineering. I was the guy who get called after a short run failure for a root cause analysis. Half of the time it was a cowboy salesman pushing everything to 95-100% of limits not understanding unforeseen operating conditions and zero safety factor. I’d have to tell the customer that production was unattainable due to application issues and the failure was not under warranty. Sales usually hides at this point.
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