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re: According to a new survey, only 16% of Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:45 pm to Joshjrn
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:45 pm to Joshjrn
Personally, I don't believe so.
Jesus was fully man, and fully God, and the Holy Spirt is a part of that. There really is no getting around that.
At the end of the day, you have free will.
God certainly could have put in our hearts to inherently love Him, but He didn't.
The road is narrow for Him, and wide without Him.
Some will hear and belive and some won't.
The answer for those of us that do is to attempt to share the Gospel in a kind, welcoming way, not like the guys with loudspeakers at the LSU game, and pray for you.
Jesus was fully man, and fully God, and the Holy Spirt is a part of that. There really is no getting around that.
At the end of the day, you have free will.
God certainly could have put in our hearts to inherently love Him, but He didn't.
The road is narrow for Him, and wide without Him.
Some will hear and belive and some won't.
The answer for those of us that do is to attempt to share the Gospel in a kind, welcoming way, not like the guys with loudspeakers at the LSU game, and pray for you.
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:47 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Catholics are the OG Christians, Protestants are different flavors of the heresies
So Protestants aren’t Christian. Noted.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:48 pm to Stinger_1066
Nope, that's not Jesus converted so many, and Ive never said that to anyone.
That's like, "buy this car, or I'll shoot this dog".
That's like, "buy this car, or I'll shoot this dog".
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:48 pm to Stinger_1066
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Except when they're telling non-believers that they are condemned to hell.
Have you honestly had Christians tell you that you were going to go to hell and tell you there was nothing you could do about it and walk away ?
Or have people that cared about the internal soul said that if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and accept the gift of everlasting life, you and your soul are condemned to hell for eternity
Telling someone you care about who is an alcoholic And warning them about the damage a life of an alcoholic can do to them is okay as long as they are willing to support them getting the help that they need to confront mans inherent weakness and the demon of alcohol and the sin of indulgence in the demons piss
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:48 pm to L.A.
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The Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University
Oh look, "research" done by a University basically saying "pastors aren't being taught how to preach correctly to their conversations" ... I wonder why a University that teaches pastors at a cheap $6,000 a semester would want people thinking about going into the ministry to be afraid they aren't equipped correctly if they don't go to ACU.
I can't put my finger on it
I mean, they have every reason to be 100% straight forward and not pad the stats at all
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:50 pm to ATrillionaire
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I don't think it works that way.
Sure it does.
Within Christianity, there are Catholics, several flavors of Orthodox, an umpteen number of Protestant denominations, the Mormons, etc.
They all claim to be Christians, but they all disagree on something, otherwise there would be only one Christian denomination.
And they all claim that they are right and all the others are wrong.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:51 pm to N2cars
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Personally, I don't believe so. Jesus was fully man, and fully God, and the Holy Spirt is a part of that. There really is no getting around that. At the end of the day, you have free will. God certainly could have put in our hearts to inherently love Him, but He didn't. The road is narrow for Him, and wide without Him. Some will hear and belive and some won't. The answer for those of us that do is to attempt to share the Gospel in a kind, welcoming way, not like the guys with loudspeakers at the LSU game, and pray for you.
I’m not arguing about how one seeks salvation; I’m asking a question of nomenclature. Some Buddhists believe Siddhartha was a god. Some believe he was an enlightened mortal who taught the path to salvation. We call both Buddhists, because they follow the teachings of the Buddha. Why is the definition of “Christian” so much more complicated?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:51 pm to Joshjrn
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Great, please tell me which of those “few” verses mandates the belief in a triune god.
I didn’t mean to pick just one particular belief like the Trinity to castigate people who call themselves Christians, but the overall lack of adherence to traditional Christian beliefs by many current so called Christians.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:52 pm to saint tiger225
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It's good to see more people are waking up to the scam that is religion.
I'd much rather have a belief in something than end up like an Atheist.
I can smell them from here.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:52 pm to Stinger_1066
Well, you figured it all out at 9, so case closed.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:53 pm to Revelator
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I didn’t mean to pick just one particular belief like the Trinity to castigate people who call themselves Christians, but the overall lack of adherence to traditional Christian beliefs by many current so called Christians.
Which is fine, and not something I’m inclined to argue. But if someone can achieve salvation through Christ through a handful of versus, none of which dictate a trinitarian belief, doesn’t that mean that a belief in the trinity is not fundamental to calling oneself a Christian?
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:57 pm to Joshjrn
It really isn't.
Your struggling with it, as some do. It is honestly far less complicated than the cult you mentioned, and honestly, the simplicity is what throws people the most.
The point you're struggling with isn't even the toughest one, IMO, its people that belive their works, good or bad, get them in or out of Heaven.
Your struggling with it, as some do. It is honestly far less complicated than the cult you mentioned, and honestly, the simplicity is what throws people the most.
The point you're struggling with isn't even the toughest one, IMO, its people that belive their works, good or bad, get them in or out of Heaven.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:58 pm to L.A.
I don’t believe that percentage at all
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:58 pm to saint tiger225
You are the scam God is real and if you can’t see this in everyday life then you’re a demon trying to hide the truth from humanity
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:59 pm to L.A.
Did anyone on this board take this survey?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:59 pm to Revelator
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Atheists and those who choose not to believe try to confuse people with this same argument.
Why would atheists "try to confuse people"?
They are actually attempting to eliminate the confusion by challenging people to think critically and with logic.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:01 pm to Stinger_1066
Satan doesn't want people saved.
He will use people, places ,or things to make this happen.
He will use people, places ,or things to make this happen.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:01 pm to icecreamsnowball
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There are more than double the usual amount of candidates and catechumens being confirmed this Easter in the Houston-Galveston diocese.
Immigrants from Mexico and other countries south of the Rio Grande.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:02 pm to N2cars
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It really isn't. You’re struggling with it, as some do. It is honestly far less complicated than the cult you mentioned, and honestly, the simplicity is what throws people the most. The point you're struggling with isn't even the toughest one, IMO, it’s people that belive their works, good or bad, get them in or out of Heaven.
I’m not struggling with anything. I think both Catholics and Protestants can claim to be Christian, irrespective of their beliefs regarding solo fide.
Anyone who claims that the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth are what they devote their life to is a Christian in my book.
Do you believe it’s more complicated than that? If so, you believe it’s vastly more complicated than I do.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:02 pm to Joshjrn
quote:that isn’t at all what I said. So don’t note it. If it were that easy, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
So Protestants aren’t Christian. Noted.
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