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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:39 am
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:39 am
Would you recommend a 16 seer unit with or without a heat pump living in south Louisiana?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:47 am to
For your butlers work shed, for a two story condo, for a 5000 sf house? So many unknowns.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:52 am to
Single story 1400 sq foot home.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:02 am to
With heat pump option = can move heat from inside to out or reverse itself and move heat from outside to in and can operate as a heater as well as an AC
Without heat pump option = only moves heat from inside to out and functions only as an AC

Do you want to be cold year round or not?

ETA: I hit submit too soon. As those guys down below have said, I'd go with an AC and a separate gas furnace for heat. Then the heat pump. Then an AC with an electrical coil for heat. In that order.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17261 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:03 am to
I would go without and include a gas furnace
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31092 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Would you recommend a 16 seer unit with or without a heat pump living in south Louisiana?


If natural gas is available, I would not get a heat pump.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:08 am to
So is having a heat pump not need? I see more and more people going with this option to save on utilities
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:17 am to
quote:

So is having a heat pump not need?

Not if you have a separate heating source. The difference between a heat pump and an AC is that the heat pump has additional equipment and engineering that allow it to function in reverse and provide heat to the home as well as cooling it. In cooling mode however, it's functionally identical to a standard air conditioner. While heating, a heat pump will suffer from some performance issues in very low temperatures, though. Just like an AC has a limit to how cold it can make your house when it's very hot outside, a heat pump has a limit to how warm it can make your house when it's very cold outside. In addition, no electricity, no heat.

Natural gas heaters not only put out a better quality of heat, but when you REALLY need heat when the freak ice storm takes the electricity out and it's going to be in the 20s for days, natural gas is going to be there to keep your balls warm. That heat pump won't.

EDIT: I meant other gas heaters will be available, you pedantic motherfrickers. The furnace won't, as Bullfrog points out below.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:34 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:23 am to
Let me just leave this here.
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Posted by Bullfrog
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Member since Jul 2010
56285 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:24 am to
quote:

when the freak ice storm takes the electricity out and it's going to be in the 20s for days, natural gas is going to be there to keep your balls warm

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19829 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:24 am to
16 SEER NO heat pump
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:25 am to
Never had really cold balls and wished you had a furnace, huh?

EDIT: Goddammit, I was thinking of natural gas space heaters being available and not the furnace. I had both a furnace and gas taps/fireplaces. The blower on the furnace won't run during a power outage, but any other gas heaters you have will.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:32 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62812 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:26 am to
I'd go with heat pump.
Gas is better,but not needed so much where you are.
But, look into rebates offered by the utility companies.
I went from heat pump to gas furnace and received $1000 credit.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Member since Jul 2010
56285 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Never had really cold balls and wished you had a furnace, huh?
Sure. But my gas furnace doesn’t run when the power is out. Same as a heat pump won’t run when the power is out.

ETA: BINGO!!!
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2103 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Natural gas heaters not only put out a better quality of heat, but when you REALLY need heat when the freak ice storm takes the electricity out and it's going to be in the 20s for days, natural gas is going to be there to keep your balls warm. That heat pump won't


So when your electricity goes out, what powers your thermostat, provides the power for your blower motor, etc? Gas or no gas, no electricity means your heat source isn’t going to keep you warm.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

If natural gas is available, I would not get a heat pump.



Correct answer.


If natural gas then just get furnace.

Be mindful that propane/butane is much more expensive than Natural Gas and I'd get a heat pump even If I already had a Propane tank and service.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:54 am to
If I lose power during the winter, my generator kicks on and runs my natural gas furnace. I also have a New England Soapstone wood stove for back up. I had to live several months without reliable heat in south louisiana during the winter and swore I would never be without a reliable source of heat again. I can live without A/C but frick the cold.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Single story 1400 sq foot home.
So you're thinking about putting a 16 seer AC in a fishing camp??
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15163 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

If natural gas is available, I would not get a heat pump.


What he said. Natural gas heat is what I've been running since I put the central unit in my house in 92 and it is more than adequate. I have a 2 story and the central is on the top floor which is 1600 sq. ft. with 10 1/2 ft. ceilings, plaster and lath walls, double hung wooden windows and only insulation blown in the attic. My bill runs about $150 average in the winter months.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:14 pm to
We are all electric with no access to natural gas. 16 seer AC without the heat pump should be fine then I guess. 16 seer should lower the electric bill versus the 14 seer.
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