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re: Aaron Hernandez found dead in jail cell

Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Dave lsu 89
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:35 am to
what??????
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:35 am to
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But years of solitary will mentally destroy a human.


Just watched a mini-series about 17 year old (Kalief Browder) who was accused of stealing a backpack in NY and was held in Riker's Island for 3 years without a trial. Most of his time illegal incarceration was in solitary. Charges were eventually dropped and he was released. Kid was never the same and committed suicide at home while his mother was there.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:38 am to
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Heck no, look at the Nordic countries. They actually try to rehab their prisoners.

But what is the level of crime, especially violent crime?
Posted by Gorilla Fingers
Member since Jul 2011
1553 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:03 am to
I don't see how he pulled it off. Seems like the window wouldn't be high enough and the wall underneath the window would give the body leverage to resist.
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:05 am to
plus its not like he is short!!! conspiracy?
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:09 am to
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plus its not like he is short!!! conspiracy?


Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:39 am to
Didn't want to be a wide receiver the rest of his life.
Tax dollars saved!
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26972 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:26 pm to
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If I was in prison for the rest of my life as of my 20s, I think I'd do the same. What is there to live for?

You'd probably hang yourself by your jorts.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Hernandez apparently took his own life on the day many of his former teammates will be honored at the White House for winning Super Bowl 51.


Justice served.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19649 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:32 pm to
SIAP. Came across this earlier.

"According to ESPN's Roger Cossack, Aaron Hernandez's legal team can file a motion to vacate his conviction for the murder of Lloyd. Martin W. Healy, the chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association, told The Boston Globe that the legal rule is called "abatement ab initio." Healy says upon a person's death, if they have not exhausted their legal appeals, their case reverts to its status at the beginning -- it is as if the trial and conviction never happened."

ESPN article
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26972 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:41 pm to
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He had it all and he leaves behind an innocent wife and child

The baby is innocent, but his wife is not innocent at all. She got rid of evidence (it's alleged she got rid of the murder weapon and other items in the big garbage bag she drove off with on camera) and was given immunity before testifying. She allegedly lied to the grand jury like 29 times to cover up for her man who killed her SISTER'S boyfriend. She's a THUG.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:45 pm to
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quote:Prison is brutal --- solitary confinement turns humans in animals. Various studies highlight how inhumane it is

Quote: so you really think that people who murder others and rip their lives away from themselves and family should still have the right to be treated humanely?

Dude, he never said he thought prison should be more humane. Some of yall just read crap that isn't there. It's called "reading comprehension". Try it.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:46 pm to
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I don't see how he pulled it off. Seems like the window wouldn't be high enough and the wall underneath the window would give the body leverage to resist.



Robin Williams used a belt wedged into the frame of a door to hang himself. It's not much higher than a window. It can done if you just lean forward and resist the bodies natural instincts to lean back I guess.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:47 pm to
you choke yourself until you pass out from lack of oxygen and if your bodyweight moves forward, you cut off the carotid artery entirely and die
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30735 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I don't feel bad for Hernandez but there's a lot of people that got caught up in the prison industrial complex small things and rather than trying to make them into functional members of society we make them worse.


As an adult, no one is responsible for you being a functional member of society or not. It's every individuals decision on whether they want to be a dumbass criminal, or a functioning member of our society that abides by the law.

and don't compare the US to Norway for anything crime related.
The murder rate in the US in something stupid like 500x's higher than Norway. there isn't a culture that celebrates violent crimes like in the US in Norway. There's also no people of African or Mexican descent in Norway.
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