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re: A very good history of Islam

Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Satan is Allah.



Allah is just the Arabic word for God. Arabic-speaking Christians use the term Allah.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:51 pm to
Pretty sure this kid is Muslim.
Or black.
Or a leftist.


Or perhaps all 3.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:24 pm to
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K


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Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:27 pm to
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If you want to completely overlook the the fact that one faith has gone through major reformations while the other is still in the 7th century.


And then they started killing women and calling them witches in Salem. Thats a rinse, wash, repeat. Look how far they came in over 1000 years.
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:33 pm to
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Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:58 pm to
If the Salem witch trials from 400 ago is your big equalizer then that says a lot
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:05 pm to
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Basically the same as any objective historian would say too. Islam has kept the ME stuck in their own dark age, what once was a cradle of science, art, metallurgy, mathematics, and engineering in the ancient world is now little more than 3rd worlders squabbling over which version of their pedophile prophet is more correct while plotting to spread their societal cancer around the world.


Yep
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:11 pm to
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Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:17 pm to
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If the Salem witch trials from 400 ago is your big equalizer then that says a lot

The Crusades (11th–13th Centuries): A series of religious wars initiated by the Catholic Church to reclaim the Holy Land from Muslims. These campaigns resulted in the mass slaughter of Muslims, Jews, and even other Christian sects.The Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834): Established by the Catholic Monarchs in Spain, this campaign was aimed at ensuring orthodoxy among converts. It utilized torture, imprisonment, and executions (including burning at the stake) against thousands of suspected heretics, Jews, and Muslims.

The European Wars of Religion (16th–17th Centuries): Following the Protestant Reformation, conflicts such as the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648) ravaged Europe. Driven largely by sectarian divides between Catholics and Protestants, the violence led to millions of military and civilian casualties.

The Colonization of the Americas (15th–19th Centuries): Backed by papal decrees, European powers colonized the Americas. Forced conversions, enslavement, and the introduction of devastating European diseases led to the deaths of millions of Indigenous people.

The French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): A prolonged period of civil infighting and massacres between French Catholics and French Calvinists (Huguenots), most notably the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre in 1572, where tens of thousands of Protestants were assassinated

You can add in the colonization of all the americas and all the indigenous tribes wiped out by disease and murder.

You can also add how southern baptists and other Protestants were members of the KKK killing blacks and Catholics.

I mean seriously, how fricking ignorant to history can you be.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:18 pm to
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I also read the entire Koran. Which truthfully was an awful slog. I hate poetry so it was hard to get through and I honestly didn’t retain much.


I’ll take things that never happened for $1000.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84880 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:24 pm to
Muh crusades
Muh colonialism
It’s all so tired. Bc meanwhile, Muslims are routinely slaughtering Christians now, not hundreds of years ago. They're emigrating to Christian countries and routinely killing infidels. While at the same time actively trying to outbreed and replace native Christians. But muh salem witch trials.

At what point in your life did you decide to be a sniveling anti western leftist who sucks off Islam?
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:22 pm to
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Muh crusades Muh colonialism It’s all so tired. Bc meanwhile, Muslims are routinely slaughtering Christians now, not hundreds of years ago. They're emigrating to Christian countries and routinely killing infidels. While at the same time actively trying to outbreed and replace native Christians. But muh salem witch trials. At what point in your life did you decide to be a sniveling anti western leftist who sucks off Islam?


I don’t even like Islam, but because I’m a critical thinker to point out obvious bias and weak information, much like the 3 people who posted before me, then you’re dumb arse can only comprehend that if I don’t suck off some fake Christian old guy then I must suck off islam. Especially since I am pointing out how similar they are when it comes to killing people and spreading their message and territories.

At what point in your life did you become such a scared ignorant bitch that you refused to acknowledge reality.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84880 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Especially since I am pointing out how similar they are when it comes to killing people and spreading their message and territories.


They’re absolutely not similar which is demonstrated by your having to reach back centuries to conjure up what you think is a comparison. Youre too ignorant of history to know any better but too stupid to understand it. You’re just repeating standard leftist talking points. Don’t flatter yourself by calling it “critical thinking.”

Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1988 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26700 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:13 pm to
quote:


quote:
Basically the same as any objective historian would say too. Islam has kept the ME stuck in their own dark age, what once was a cradle of science, art, metallurgy, mathematics, and engineering in the ancient world is now little more than 3rd worlders squabbling over which version of their pedophile prophet is more correct while plotting to spread their societal cancer around the world.


Yep


Indeed. They froze themselves in time like a fly preserved in amber.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2210 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:18 pm to
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To you it is. Christians murdered nonbelievers in the millions, and women they thought were witches only like 150 years ago.


Doesn't that kind of prove their superiority? The fact they can evolve and become more civilized as time goes on?

Not saying they're perfect but compared to other parts of the world, the Christian West is by far the fairest, advanced, and most egalitarian society in the world. Constantly taking the "other" side won't cure your unresolved teen angst or disprove that fact.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 7:26 pm
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:36 pm to
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They’re absolutely not similar which is demonstrated by your having to reach back centuries to conjure up what you think is a comparison. Youre too ignorant of history to know any better but too stupid to understand it. You’re just repeating standard leftist talking points. Don’t flatter yourself by calling it “critical thinking


I’m not even a leftist but ok. Keep coming with the standard bullshite since you can’t think independently.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:38 pm to
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K


Since I rendered you retarded, I’ll move on. Glad you retired. You should go back to NLU and teach.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:39 pm to
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I mean seriously, how fricking ignorant to history can you be.


You must be pretty fricking ignorant to compare Islam to Christianity. Islam is the only major religion still stuck in the 1200s.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Doesn't that kind of prove their superiority? The fact they can evolve and become more civilized as time goes on? Not saying they're perfect but compared to other parts of the world, the Christian West is by far the fairest, advanced, and most egalitarian society in the world. Constantly taking the "other" side won't cure your unresolved teen angst or disprove that fact.


I didn’t say one is better than the other. I’m arguing that they’re similar and both have terrible histories of murder and expansion and if you want to get technical, I mentioned at least we separated out church and state although we still as a government murder mostly non Christians in the name of spreading our own beliefs.

I would agree the average Christian today is less murderous, although that wasn’t true less than 100 years ago when Protestant whites formed groups to murder and torture blacks. So when you’re looking at both compared throughout their entire histories, they aren’t that different. There’s still Christians murdering gay people. There’s still Christian nationalist groups that would love to murder some nonbelievers and the Nazis were mostly made up of Christians and largely supported by Christian organizations as they exterminated the Jews.

There’s plenty of examples.
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