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re: A US Air Force Special OPs Team...I need some help with ranks
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:49 pm to cubsfan5150
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:49 pm to cubsfan5150
Yes senior is e-8 USAF just doesn't refer to them as Senior .. Otherwise, agree with ya!
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:50 pm to Enadious
I imagine one needs to be an officer and the rest enlisted.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:52 pm to Airpower
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Takes an average of 3 years to make E-4 in the airforce
Jesus Christ that's pathetic. I made E-4 after A-school
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:52 pm to Enadious
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I'm writing a story involving a team of 6. What rank should I make the team leader? How about the other 5? What realistic rankings would those airmen have?
Very few small teams like that are led by an officer. It happens, but rarely. Usually the leader is a Master Sargent. And the other five will be a mix of lower ranks, RARELY anything below a Sargent though, because most of the time , time in service is required for special teams and that time in service is naturally going to result in promotions for guys who are capable of becoming special force operators.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:53 pm to OSqueal
You can make E-4 quicker if you come in as A1C and get promoted below the zone 2 1/2 years to E-4.. And yes a lot has changed in 25 years 
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:22 pm to Lakeboy7
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So its going to be a fictional piece
moron
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:30 pm to Airpower
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Takes an average of 3 years to make E-4 in the airforce
Jesus, I made E5 in the Marine Corps in three years and one month.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:35 pm to RATeamWannabe
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Jesus, I made E5 in the Marine Corps in three years and one month.
wow, you're awesome!!!!
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:38 pm to Mear
Not sure why we have to state the obvious, but thanks man
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:41 pm to Airpower
Except we call them Senior or Sergeant
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:45 pm to cubsfan5150
Yeah, SMSgt is called "Senior" so much, they had to write it in the Airman's Handbook NOT to call them "Senior"...
Guess what, everyone calls them Senior
Guess what, everyone calls them Senior
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:55 pm to IceTiger
You are making my argument... They actually finally added it back to the enlisted force structure.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:54 pm to Enadious
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:56 pm to Enadious
Four-Star General.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:21 pm to Enadious
Nine out of ten will not read your book... the other one, just doesn't know how to read.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:42 pm to cubsfan5150
Well in my 22 years service in the USAF , I NEVER referred to a SMSgt as senior ....
But I did retire 10 years ago and things change quickly!
But I did retire 10 years ago and things change quickly!
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:48 pm to IceTiger
So you ignore the airman's handbook .. Well OK, I guess if it's not an AFI don't matter?? ..
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:24 pm to RATeamWannabe
Marine corps ... That's due to attrition... Oh sorry marine... That means people separating and thus vacancies opening quicker.. Horah
Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:24 pm to tigerfoot
quote:they are all in the Navy, you can tell by the short shorts, and the way they look at each other with a twinkle in their eyes
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:30 pm to Airpower
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U guessed wrong ... E-5 and 6 mostly
This
There is very little promoting in USAF Spec Ops due to the low number of personnel. So most CCT's (Combat Controllers or PJ's/ParaRescue) are going to be lower in rank, as stated before, probably E-4 to E-6. Leader will be an E-6 or possibly an E-7, but as previously stated they usually don't work in groups as such. PJ's will be assigned to a unit, but you are more likely to be using an Army Spec Ops team (Green Beret/Special Forces) with maybe an AF CCT or possibly two (for the sake of your storyline)
Would be more accurate to have the senior Army Spec-Ops sargeant the team lead and maybe the senior USAF CCT the team co-lead/2nd in command. CCT's are more apt to have specialized training, i.e. sniper, mountain training, airborne training through Army training programs. You could use this as a way of the Spec Ops team lead having previous knowledge/time spent with the USAF CCT lead.
Always good to have prior knowledge of the people you are putting together when dropped somewhere deep in harms way.
As for names the two top guys can be equal rank and refer to each other by first name. The other guys on a team such as this, in Spec Ops/CCT. will usually have a nickname/moniker assigned to them when they went through their spec ops training. So "Taco", "Pluto", "Tank", "EJ"and "Big Chief" or whatever you decide to use makes more sense in the real world than asking "Fred" to pop smoke and cover the exfil with suppressing fire from his SAW.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 4:58 pm
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