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re: A supposed former CIA operative makes a death bed confession about WTC Building 7

Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:02 pm to
Dont be coming at these sheep with logic, scientific method and laws of physics.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:10 pm to
911 was an inside job and there is no God. I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:12 pm to
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How are they similar? Please explain. I'm having trouble comparing a pre-cast concrete structure divided into apartments with an large-span truss system between the exterior columns and the tower core, as used in the WTC towers.



If the multistory apartment building is a precast building then they are not similar. However what is interesting, a fire in a precast building would be more susceptible to collapse versus a beam and truss high-rise building by the thermal expansion theory. This is the theory put forth by the government. If precast buildings don't collapse under thermal stress (like the London apartment building) why would a more homogeneous beam and truss building collapse symmetrically (which only occurred on 911...not to one building but three on the same day...those are extreme odds)?

(Note: the thermal expansion theory by the U.S. government is based on the varying expansion rates in the materials to make building system, i.e., floors, columns, etc.)
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:13 pm to
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I haven't heard any conspiracy theory related to 911 that made sense.


That's because you have spent zero time on the links I've provided in this thread.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:15 pm to
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911 was an inside job and there is no God. I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:17 pm to
comparing the events that happened on 9/11 to other building fires seems rather silly

the amount of variables and controls to replicate such an event make it unlike any other event in history
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:19 pm to
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That's because you have spent zero time on the links I've provided in this thread.


I've seen the links to support conspiracy theories related to 911 many times.

If you want there to be a conspiracy, you'll bend the stories to fit your agenda.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:21 pm to
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comparing the events that happened on 9/11 to other building fires seems rather silly


Comparative analysis is one of the staples of forensic science.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Comparative analysis is one of the staples of forensic science.


ok

point still stands
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Comparative analysis is one of the staples of forensic science.

So the 9/11 scenario was exactly the same as a building fire in London? Come on.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:24 pm to
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I've seen the links to support conspiracy theories related to 911 many times.


Look at the documentation (videos and articles) form the Architect and Engineering group.

They stay away from all the conspiracy theories of "why" and totally focus on the possibilities of "how".
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:26 pm to
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quote:

Comparative analysis is one of the staples of forensic science.


So the 9/11 scenario was exactly the same as a building fire in London? Come on.


Disingenuous logical leap is neither genuine or logical.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:27 pm to
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They stay away from all the conspiracy theories of "why" and totally focus on the possibilities of "how".



so they have explained how the explosives got into the building?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Disingenuous logical leap is neither genuine or logical.

Were you not using the London fire as a comparative example for the 9/11 scenario?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:28 pm to
So you are saying that Bin Laden didn't mastermind the attack by recruiting men and bring them to the USA where they learned to fly planes and then picked certain flights that were full of fuel and picked out the certain targets and then hijack the planes and then fly them into said targets causing mass destruction right under our noses???? You saying none of that happened????
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:28 pm to
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so they have explained how the explosives got into the building?




Obviously someone brought them in.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:29 pm to
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so they have explained how the explosives got into the building?

This is my biggest problem with it. The amount of prep work that needed to be done would be almost impossible to conceal.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:30 pm to
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I've seen the links to support conspiracy theories related to 911 many times.
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Look at the documentation (videos and articles) form the Architect and Engineering group.

They stay away from all the conspiracy theories of "why" and totally focus on the possibilities of "how".


I've read links from these people. I've also read counter arguments from the architects and engineers who claim the group is full of shite.

To believe these people, you have to ignore evidence (multiple times as much) to the contrary. Why do you disregard the professionals who don't support the conspiracy? I mean, there are 10x as many or more that don't.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Obviously someone brought them in.


how, specifically?
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:32 pm to
conspiracy theorists believe that they have some special insight into things that "normal" people lack...therefore, they believe they are smarter than anyone who doesn't see what they supposedly see...it's kind of sad.
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