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Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:35 pm to dukke v
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So you are saying that Bin Laden didn't mastermind the attack by recruiting men and bring them to the USA where they learned to fly planes and then picked certain flights that were full of fuel and picked out the certain targets and then hijack the planes and then fly them into said targets causing mass destruction right under our noses???? You saying none of that happened????
I have my hypothesis of how it went down but have no proof. My hypothesis is based on the fact that the CIA infiltrates terrorist groups as a standard operating procedure. Similar to how the CIA armed ISIS they led the 911 terrorist unbeknownst to the terrorist themselves.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:38 pm to pussywillows
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conspiracy theorists believe that they have some special insight into things that "normal" people lack...therefore, they believe they are smarter than anyone who doesn't see what they supposedly see...it's kind of sad.
Yep. It's a desire to be different by thinking they have some kind of ability to see through bullshite and therefore are not "sheep."
The amount of preparation and people required for a controlled demolition is reason enough to doubt most of the conspiracy theories. It takes some cognitive gymnastics to believe the theories.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The amount of preparation and people required for a controlled demolition is reason enough to doubt most of the conspiracy theories. It takes some cognitive gymnastics to believe the theories.
Yeah.
If someone wants to focus on the "how", then they need to explain this before anything else
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:41 pm to Salmon
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how, specifically?
I don't know. I can speculate a dozen different ways but in the end I don't know.
If I had to pull it off I would become the elevator maintenance crew and over a 3-6 month time period I would load the demo charges along the elevator shaft column beams over time from floor to floor. Take out those beams and she'll fall perfectly symmetrical.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep. It's a desire to be different by thinking they have some kind of ability to see through bullshite and therefore are not "sheep."
I've heard an explanation of their mentality as they have personalities in which they cannot stand random sets of events that cannot be put into place perfectly. They also don't like to think that they can be bested by these random events like psychotic lone gunmen (Sandy Hook).
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:42 pm to GumboPot
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If I had to pull it off I would become the elevator maintenance crew and over a 3-6 month time period I would load the demo charges along the elevator shaft column beams over time from floor to floor. Take out those beams and she'll fall perfectly symmetrical.
how many lbs of explosives would this require?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:43 pm to S
That plane was targeted for the Capital and the passsngers fought back with the hijackers... no telling how all of it went after that....
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:43 pm to pussywillows
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onspiracy theorists believe that they have some special insight into things that "normal" people lack...therefore, they believe they are smarter than anyone who doesn't see what they supposedly see.
Not really. They just see it differently coming from a different set of assumptions and bias.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:44 pm to S
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Where does the plane that crashed in If i lived here I'd cut my dick off and bleed out slowlyville, Pennsylvania figure in this?
It doesn't. It crashed in Pennsylvania.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:45 pm to upgrayedd
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I've heard an explanation of their mentality as they have personalities in which they cannot stand random sets of events that cannot be put into place perfectly. They also don't like to think that they can be bested by these random events like psychotic lone gunmen (Sandy Hook).
It's definitely an attempt to rationalize random events. I guess if you can cook up this global elitist cabal who needs to pull off elaborate schemes to perpetuate war, you'll learn to tie everything together.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:47 pm to GumboPot
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If I had to pull it off I would become the elevator maintenance crew and over a 3-6 month time period I would load the demo charges along the elevator shaft column beams over time from floor to floor. Take out those beams and she'll fall perfectly symmetrical.
Ok, let's go down this road.
How do you go about getting the work order rolling on something like this? I assume the WTC had a maintenance contract for their elevators. So that means they have to infiltrate the elevator company, invent some sort of problem that the unknowing company will approve, then get the WTC management company to sign off on it. I assume there will also be unionized labor involved so then you have to add another layer of approvals, contracts, etc. Next, you'll have to get permits with the city which would require inspection and approval on their part. This kind of stuff is just too complex to hide.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:49 pm to Salmon
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how many lbs of explosives would this require?
Probably less than you would think. They typically use shaped charges that allow you to be more precise without having to use a lot of explosives.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:49 pm to upgrayedd
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This kind of stuff is just too complex to hide.
Not to mention unnecessary. Our secret overlords must be stupid.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:52 pm to upgrayedd
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This kind of stuff is just too complex to hide.
Our government can't even keep e-mails safe
How people think they could organize a inside job to this level without leaks is beyond me
These people have some serious faith in our government
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:55 pm to Salmon
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Our government can't even keep e-mails safe
How people think they could organize a inside job to this level without leaks is beyond me
These people have some serious faith in our government
The biggest thing is that they've turned it into such a complex plan with so many moving parts that if one or two pieces don't work, the whole thing goes south.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:56 pm to Salmon
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how many lbs of explosives would this require?
IDK. If I had to take a swag at it maybe 200,000 lbs.
That's about 2000 lbs a floor in forty 50 lb. bags. 4 guys could do that during the off hours shift. One floor a day for a 100 days. Just speculating.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:57 pm to LSU Wayne
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When the building came down, it was such a rush. Everything went exactly to plan. It was so smooth. Everybody was evacuated. Nobody was hurt in WTC 7. We were celebrating. We kept watching replays of the demolition, we had the whiskey and cigars out
Hope his death is slow and painful
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:57 pm to GumboPot
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IDK. If I had to take a swag at it maybe 200,000 lbs.
is this not an important aspect of the "how"?
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