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Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:27 am to Salmon
quote:It's certainly an abnormality, but there shouldn't be a stigma on it.
which is fine
I just don't understand why people get triggered if you call it what it is, and that is a defect/malfunction/illness of some kind
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:29 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
but there shouldn't be a stigma on it.
we put a stigma and treat people for mental illness when they disassociate with their arms or legs
why is a penis different?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:30 am to Styxion
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This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 1:15 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:32 am to shiftworker
I wouldn't have any problem asking him if he still had a dick. That would probably be the first thing I'd ask. I wouldn't expect most people to bring that up, so I think he is blowing it out of proportion majorly.
I'm an a-hole, so that's my excuse
I'm an a-hole, so that's my excuse
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:33 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:It doesn't change that they are biologically one sex or the other, I agree. IMO a person's brain and psyche is much more important in determining "who" they are.
Uhm, I'm not sure many people deny this. We're aware that these peoples' brains have developed differently. We're saying no matter how fricked their brain is, it doesn't change what they are.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:35 am to Hog on the Hill
Is she not an acceptable word to reference a female?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:36 am to Salmon
quote:Yes, society tends to place a stigma on mental disorders and mental illnesses, but should it? I think it's a net negative because it prevents us from treating people who suffer from disorders/illnesses with compassion.
we put a stigma and treat people for mental illness when they disassociate with their arms or legs
why is a penis different?
We don't place a stigma on getting cancer or losing a limb. It would be absurd to perceive someone negatively because something has happened to them beyond their control.
Why should it be different for mental issues? If a person's identity is male, we should accept them for being male, even if they have a vagina. Insisting that they conform to their genitals is only going to cause them pain and suffering, because it's forcing them to live in a way incongruent with how they sincerely feel.
We should accept them because it's just who they are.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:37 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
IMO a person's brain and psyche is much more important in determining "who" they are.
What if they want to be a Zebra or a Leopard? Should society treat them as such and those people who don't should they be charged for discrimination and labeled as a bigot?
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:39 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
Yes, society tends to place a stigma on mental disorders and mental illnesses, but should it?
no, I don't think so either
but nothing is wrong with acknowledging the mental illness or disorder
that is my only gripe with the trans movement
why is it wrong to acknowledge that these people have a disorder?
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:43 am to JOHNN
There are like 50 different words to describe people now. I have no idea wtf they mean either. Then, these tards say they don't like labels, but always seem to come up with some obscure, made up word to label themselves as.
It should be:
I like dudes
I like chicks
I like both
I'm a dude
I'm a chick
I'm a tranny
I don't understand what is so hard about that
It should be:
I like dudes
I like chicks
I like both
I'm a dude
I'm a chick
I'm a tranny
I don't understand what is so hard about that
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:44 am to pointdog33
quote:It's a national university of Spain, so yeah, it does sound legit. The principal researcher, Antonio Guillamon, has an impressive CV and a very long list of publications in peer-reviewed journals.
Seems legit
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:46 am to Hammertime
quote:Anyone who is fluent in English knows at least 10,000 words, and native speakers know 20,000 words on average. It's not that hard to learn a few more
There are like 50 different words to describe people now. I have no idea wtf they mean either. Then, these tards say they don't like labels, but always seem to come up with some obscure, made up word to label themselves as.
It should be:
I like dudes
I like chicks
I like both
I'm a dude
I'm a chick
I'm a tranny
I don't understand what is so hard about that
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:47 am to Hog on the Hill
Is she not an acceptable word to use when referencing a female?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:50 am to Salmon
quote:I'm just going to quote from the APA website about transgender:
no, I don't think so either
but nothing is wrong with acknowledging the mental illness or disorder
that is my only gripe with the trans movement
why is it wrong to acknowledge that these people have a disorder?
LINK
quote:
A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people who experience intense, persistent gender incongruence can be given the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria." Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated. Others argue that it is essential to retain the diagnosis to ensure access to care. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is under revision and there may be changes to its current classification of intense persistent gender incongruence as "gender identity disorder."
Maybe it's more accurately called an "abnormality" since it's certainly a deviation from what's normal. But IMO there's nothing inherently wrong with that, I think most people deviate from what's normal in at least some ways.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:51 am to shiftworker
Who gives a shite what you identify as?
These people are so stupid.
But hey, if they want complete equality across the board, I'm all for it.
If all the white people at LSU now identify as black can we get LSU deemed a historically black college, the shut down Southern because we don't need both of them in BR.
Also, I am now identifying as a poor person. Regardless of what my actual income is, I identify as a person with 7 children and I make less than 20,000 a year so I'd appreciate some tax breaks.
In the mornings between 530 and 7 am I identify as a dog. So I will be pissing and shitting outdoors in public. Don't worry, I'll pick it up in a plastic bag after 7 when I'm human again.
These people are so stupid.
But hey, if they want complete equality across the board, I'm all for it.
If all the white people at LSU now identify as black can we get LSU deemed a historically black college, the shut down Southern because we don't need both of them in BR.
Also, I am now identifying as a poor person. Regardless of what my actual income is, I identify as a person with 7 children and I make less than 20,000 a year so I'd appreciate some tax breaks.
In the mornings between 530 and 7 am I identify as a dog. So I will be pissing and shitting outdoors in public. Don't worry, I'll pick it up in a plastic bag after 7 when I'm human again.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:52 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:He/she are words for a person's gender, so if you're referring to someone whose gender is female, then "she" is appropriate
Is she not an acceptable word to use when referencing a female?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:55 am to Hog on the Hill
Not if they're make believe. They just keep coming up with new shite every other day
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:56 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress
I'd say severely altering your body is caused by some type of distress
quote:
Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated
these are the people that I have a problem with
I have tourettes, its a disorder, I don't get triggered if someone says that I have a disorder
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:56 am to Hammertime
quote:That's how languages work. They change as we identify the need for new words to concisely express complex ideas.
Not if they're make believe. They just keep coming up with new shite every other day
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