re: A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind

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Also, are you then advocating for the abolishment of any right through which harm was done?

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I advocate abolishing rights that do far more harm than good.

Which I propose the 2A qualifies for.

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Why would he feel protected?

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Because even pussies can kill someone very easily with a gun.

Another baker’s dozen of children are gunned down and yet you’re here with the attitude of meh got to make sure I don’t budge on the issues. I mean unless you do have a solution then I’d like to hear it. Obviously I don’t think this solution is as simple as more gun laws but saying let’s not do anything is objectively worse

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I mean unless you do have a solution then I’d like to hear it.

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How many times does it have to be said, sensible gun laws reforms.

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Nobody is trying to repeal the second amendment to that’s just a paranoid fantasy

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Literally just 7 posts above yours

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I advocate abolishing rights that do far more harm than good.

Which I propose the 2A qualifies for.

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I mean the racist shooter last week simply shot the armed security guard first, and the Parkland massacre had an armed Sheriff's deputy on duty and at the school.

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Security can be much more complex than a complacent overweight security guard. That’s not at all what I meant when stating that security could be vastly improved upon.

Some random poster on TD doesn’t qualify I’m obviously taking about people actually in power. Not everything is black and white, we can talk about reforming gun laws while making sure the majority of Americans still are able to acquire guns. However there is obviously a problem going given the fact that shite like this keeps happening again and again. And we have this same stupid fricking debate again and again and nothing gets done. It’s extremely depressing and aggravating. Gun law reform, more mental health clinics, free mental health clinics, something has to be done

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Security can be much more complex than a complacent overweight security guard. That’s not at all what I meant when stating that security could be vastly improved upon.

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I mean I also said that in the short term I agree security needs to be beefed up.

But to me it's a crazy workaround solution when, for instance, the police department in this city reportedly received nearly half of the city budget last year, on top of an infusion of 500k from the state explicitly meant to help beef up security due to things like mass shootings.

I think there is also an irony that we are essentially advocating to form an ever encroaching police state in our children's schools to deal with the problem arising from the interpretation of an amendment, and it's current legal framework, that is supposedly there to prevent police states and improve safety.

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Who's research? Kleck's? Have you actually read any of his research? The actual studies not snippets here and there? No, you haven't. Like the other poster you are a shallow thinker here and your ignorance on this topic is obvious.

Here, let me help you be a little more educated:
Armed Resistance to Crime

Maybe you can explain why an "absurdist" was on the committee for this study? Page 106 right here: LINK

It really is laughable dealing with you folks.

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As the research that attempted to validate and assess the findings of the Kleck survey pointed out, the numbers simply dont add up.

After extrapolating their flawed survey results to the general population, the annual defensive gun use against intruders, where a shot was supposedly fired, or a home robbery was deterred, would require over 100% of all home robberies reported annually to have been successfully deterred by defensive gun use(or for there to be an astronomical number of unreported home invasions). For more criminals to have been shot than all the available medical, CDC, and police records researchers could find.

That contrasted with things like the Gun Violence Database that collects every single reported incident of crime and defensive gun use reported to local police, leaves a delta compared to the Kleck study of almost 295,000 supposed unaccounted incidences of defensive gun use. Which makes the questionable methodology and extrapolated numbers even more difficult to claim as being accurately representative. That's before the issue of false positives, telescoping, and motivated biased responses that the study made no attempt to account for or weed out(which would help explain the enormous and unaccountable deltas).

The numbers, for lack of a better word, simply dont add up. The methodology, for lack of a better word, is shite. No matter how many times you blind link things you havent read, or declare your self-professed intellectual superiority, as you post another thing that doesnt actually bolster the case you think it does, and in fact does the opposite.