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re: A good buddy called me asking for money yesterday. Update 6/12

Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:26 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
51036 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:26 am to
A good friend would empty the 401K for him
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282868 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:27 am to
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. How are you not a ball of anxiety at that point?


Its the "grab it all while you can" mentality."

When they fail, they'll do it again. Seen it over and over.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51874 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:29 am to
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Its the "grab it all while you can" mentality."

I despise owing money to anyone, even the bank. I like living well below my means.

I can understand someone falling on hard times due to job loss, health issues etc.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 10:30 am
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2000 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:30 am to
I loaned a friend money once. It worked out for me though, as he paid me back with a little interest. It was only $1400 though, and it did take a while to be paid back. How much did he ask for?

EDIT: Never mind I see the amount in the thread.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
18149 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:32 am to
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they are the classic 80-90k millionaires


My now late brother-in-law was the exact same way. Lived in the suburbs outside Atlanta, always had the big truck for himself, new car for the wife----who didn't work----the 2 story house on a corner lot in a nice subdivision, the toys to keep up with the neighbors in the likes of a motorcycle, boat, camper, etc.

He was so upside down it wasn't funny but didn't want to sell off the big boy toys to help himself out and counted on family to help bail him out. The wife decided to lend him some money once----never got it back, never lent any more money either.

He ruined his dad's credit score by having him sign off on a loan and then reneging on the payments, borrowed money from one brother and he finally did pay him back only after a few years of hounding.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2237 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:33 am to
One thing that stood out to me was that he needs the money to pay insurance premiums. This is how the middle class is being squeezed, IMO. You can go cheaper on cars and houses, but the insurance is still through the roof. I’m at the stage where my kids are driving but not independent. Even liability alone on a $4k car is a lot.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6881 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:33 am to
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They are well living over their heads.


It's insane to me how people will live so close to the line where one hiccup, like a change in insurance prices, puts you over the edge.

My wife and I still have toys but live below our means and have sizeable buffers should things go south. Having a bankruptcy attorney for a mother and her parents being immigrants probably helped with our mentality.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2118 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:36 am to
I wouldn't worry about it. You don't really seem like his friend, so I'm sure you will be fine.
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2829 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:40 am to
Sad thing is he probably maxed out his credit cards so whatever you give him, probably is paying the min amount so he will be in the same proverbial boat next month.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36640 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:41 am to
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had a similar situation but a cousin (not friend) once asking to lend him $200 due to financial difficulty. I understood his situation and it was a valid one so I let him borrow it.

Fast forward 10 years and he still has not paid it back. He works full time now and I know that he can afford to pay it. I have not asked him for the money but in all honesty I lost a bit of respect for him. My other cousin told me I should have not let him borrow the money.
$200 to a blood relative is pretty low to expect to be repaid, especially after 10 years.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36640 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:45 am to
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I haven't read all the other stuff so I'm sure someone said this, but if this friend is going to you for money without selling his stuff or going to family first, then this friend needs the money for something he doesn't want the rest of the family to find out about.
100%. Either he lost a job or a side piece is squeezing him. Or there is a drug / gambling problem.

Best thing to do is an intervention. Sit him down with a couple of other friends and get to the bottom of what is really happening. When people are as stressed as he is sometimes they miss some easy fixes.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:45 am to
He doesn't sound like a friend and he's out of your life forever.

You just lived A Bronx Tale
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49164 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:46 am to
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Insurance premiums now going up. Other bills going up. Salary isnt.


How would he pay you back or is this to be a gift?

How will he get through the next stretch?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51874 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:46 am to
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$200 to a blood relative is pretty low to expect to be repaid, especially after 10 years

I wouldn't expect the money back and I'd have forgotten about it after a month, but that tells me something about their character. It should bother you if you borrowed money and never paid it back.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79896 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:46 am to
ehh never lend anyone money.


Think about this, he was already lent money and cant pay it rt now or he wouldn't be coming to you.


Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2237 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:47 am to
quote:

It's coming for me. I don't live beyond my means at all. No debt other than house on 2.75% loan.


Same, but insurance is what’s squeezing me. I have one kid in HS and one in college and between educational expenses and insurance, it’s tough. House and cars are well within my means and we didn’t take a vacation except to stay at a beach house my parents paid for for over 10 years. I would definitely have reservations about loaning money to someone living large and maxed out. If i had the money to give and it wouldn’t take food off my table, though, idk.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1172 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:48 am to
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$200 to a blood relative is pretty low to expect to be repaid, especially after 10 years.


His blood relative is a POS for not repaying it. I guarantee you he remembers it every time he sees him. Thinking he got one over on him. There are plenty of ways to curb your lifestyle and or make extra money if you just try.

Complete disasters aside, don't lend people money. All you're doing is enabling their lifestyles that brought them to that point.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51874 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:49 am to
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Same, but insurance is what’s squeezing me. I have one kid in HS and one in college and between educational expenses and insurance, it’s tough.

We just started paying teenager car insurance last month. Good times
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
69018 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:54 am to
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He basically said nothing yet, just gotta get through this stretch. I said I would only consider helping him if he helps himself first and shows me he is cutting back, selling some stuff. He gets kinda angry at this point like Im accusing him of something. Calms down and we just kinda end it. Hope I didnt lose a friend.


frick him. They’re obviously too self absorbed to be truly helped right now if the rest of your post is accurate. 2 boats? Yeah get fricked.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:56 am to
Unless it's like $20 or something, don't do it. Even if it's your friend.

1) He should go to family first
2) Once you give him money, he'll keep begging and begging for more
3) Most importantly, sell some of his fricking shite. He doesn't need 2 boats/side by side/vehicles like that/eat out all the time

If he decides he doesn't want to be friends anymore if you refuse, then it's his loss. Not yours.
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