re: A father speaks up at SC school board meeting on officer fields.

I haven't seen one person answer this question

I think the officer went overboard and if it were my child I'd be pissed

But I think getting the guy to physically remove her was the best/only option

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I haven't seen one person answer this question

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Which question?

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I like how you found something in his post to argue with in order to avoid answering the question

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unfortunately this time.. it was an accident. usually it's talent. what the frick is the question? how to handle the situation?

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What was the proper way to get the defiant teen out of her desk?

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1) if there is no reason to remove her from the desk handle it after class or after school. By "no reason" i mean she is literally just sleeping or on facebook and not causing a scene/intentionally being distracting. Ignoring her is the best option. Just consider her to be skipping class if she's not supposed to be there. Then suspend her. If she violates the suspension then you have grounds for further punishment/legal action. It's her future.. give her enough rope to hang herself. Getting into a verbal (and emotional) altercation with a student is the fastest way to lose the perception of authority in your classroom.

2) If she is being a nuisance and intent on causing disconcert and absolutely must be removed you start low on the spectrum of force. If the school administrative staff gets no response you call her guardian. In this situation.. she has no real parents. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

3) So let's say you finally call the police officer.. if he can't handle this alone without going WWE style then you get 2 officers in the room. First, his presence is the lowest level of force. Officers are trained to talk to hostile people.. and he quite obviously failed here in spectacular fashion. If the person who trained him in verbal encounters saw that footage he would likely die of embarrassment. Next level of force.. Pressure points or joint manipulation and the bare minimum at that should be used to control her.

What did he do? He grabbed her by the neck, flipped her desk, took her to the ground. Then he literally fricking threw her across the floor and dragged her out into the open before making a scene of cuffing her. I find it obscene that he made it into a public event. He very obviously took the situation personally and that makes him a shite officer. Thankfully, the school fired him for it. Ultimately, the schools staff had an ego problem and the officer even moreso.

Principal told me grab the front of the desk and had a plate glass window I was looking out of. He said "see those birds out there?" I said "what birds?" five hard paddles to my arse later with a piece of wood he said "I bet you see birds now."

I didn't frick up or mouth off again. It works for most people and they need to opportunity to do it in this pussified time we live in.

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He should have taught his "daughter" to be respectful and this shite wouldn't have happened.

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I don't disagree with that but it was still over the top in what the cop did and how it was handled. On the other hand, for all the people defending the girl, how would you handle the situation? If she doesn't give a shite about any form of authority and doesn't respond to anyone telling her anything, how do you handle it?

I honestly have no idea what is going on in the video, I want to think that the cop tries to get the girl out of the desk and she just sort of locks herself in it and it all falls over but I have no idea.

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Principal told me grab the front of the desk and had a plate glass window I was looking out of. He said "see those birds out there?" I said "what birds?" five hard paddles to my arse later with a piece of wood he said "I bet you see birds now."

I didn't frick up or mouth off again. It works for most people and they need to opportunity to do it in this pussified time we live in.

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I'm not against corporal punishment in schools at all but think it should be left to the parents. I'm against police officers with hot tempers and guns beating the shite out of students, though. That girl fights back and he is legally in the clear to shoot her dead or hurt her severely.

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Playing on her phone, no matter how quietly, is absolutely disruptive. Ever get pissed at people playing on their phone in a theater? My attention was drawn to a woman on her phone at a play today

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Reality is that it's a very normal distraction, though. This is a well lit classroom and students are on their phones all the time in school. A quick peak at instagram will tell ya that

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Won't put her phone away? Needs to leave the class. Won't leave the class, so she just gets to stay in there? That makes no sense and makes the teacher look ridiculous. Think about the teachers who can't control their class and how much they're disrespected

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It's no different from a situation where any other student is on their phone.. except that this student doesn't belong here. I doubt she stops the class for every disruptive thing that happens. She got into it with this student and egos got in the way.

It sounds like you have no alternative to offer

Just let the kid completely ignore the teacher and sit in class playing on her phone because it's not a distraction

That's hilarious to me

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It sounds like you have no alternative to offer

Just let the kid completely ignore the teacher and sit in class playing on her phone because it's not a distraction

That's hilarious to me

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Situation: Student refuses to move
1) Persuade student verbally to move
2) Leave student alone; handle situation after class (suspension, etc)
3) Call officer to remove student

That's 3 options. The third option is the one they chose. They just fricked it up entirely. He was a shitty negotiator and had a huge ego.. and he abused the student and put on a show for her schoolmates. Instead of using the minor amount of force required to restrain a 15 year old girl.. he went hulk hogan on her. Personally, I would choose option #1 or #2. Classes are what.. an hour long at most? I guarantee you no educating got done for the rest of the class once the officer was called in.. if I had to guess based on experience.. the rest of the class (a little ironic) the students spent on their phones