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re: A/c question re: 1986 trane condensing units

Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13366 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:27 am to
Yes I do drive a car until I've gotten useful life. The difference with car vs Hvac is that with a car you get trade in value
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34624 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:08 am to
I may just get a home warranty until they crap out
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40291 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:30 am to
Ask to see the electricity bills.

I bet they are $600 in the summer.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13366 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:33 am to
Agreed
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3733 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:19 am to
We had the same issue when we moved into our house. Actually had an old AC/furnace inside, and a recent cheap Goodman unit outside. This unit was operating at 50% efficiency, which easily would have pushed the energy bills up to 300-400 a month. My guess was the kids of the elderly lady were trying to prop up the AC unit until she was out of the house.

Anyway, a new 5 ton Rheem unit with new furnace and new duct work for a 2800 sq ft house was about $12k. I was told about half of that was for duct work. That was in 2013 in BR.

Now our energy bill never breaks $100 a month, except for July and August usage. I expected the savings from the new unit to pay for themselves within 4-5 years. Plus you really have to factor in increased expenditures for the old units and the fact that they WILL go out in the middle of August.

This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 10:22 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48572 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:50 am to
quote:

original ac condensing units, which are from 1986


When you say condensing units, are you talking about the coils, valves and housing? Or the compressor as well? If it's just the copper coils/tubing/components, that could easily still be good.

But definitely get an AC tech to check for leaks, etc.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34624 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:59 am to
The outside unit, whatever that is called
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48572 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

The outside unit, whatever that is called



It is possible but I seriously doubt the compressors are the original in both of them (really either of them). If they are, it is a no brainer to replace the units and I generally think its a good idea to replace the inside portion of the AC as well, to make sure the evaporator and condenser sections are appropriate matched. If it has a newer gas furnace, that could stay.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5632 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:28 pm to
Borrowed time. New condenser and coil is about 5k new system 7k to 10k.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32753 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:54 pm to
I swear by Goodman.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184483 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:32 pm to
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No idea what he's talking about. I'd go 4-5k for the entire system.



You can't even buy two good 5 ton units for $4-5K much less pay labor to have them put in on top of that.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:18 pm to
ASHRAE says units have a lifespan of 12-15 years. Most of the time if any type of PM work has been done, those numbers go up. However, your units are OLD. With R-22 shooting up to about 25.00/lb, i would just bite the bullet and get new units with 407c refrigerant. Generally, a full replacement of condenser and AHU's run about 1400-1800 per ton. So you are 14,000-18,000 to replace bumper to bumper. Those units are probably super inefficient so your energy bills will be way higher than they could be.
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