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re: 84 degrees outside currently.

Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14338 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:14 pm to
I don't think anyone is suggesting that the warm weather is just going to make this go away. But hot weather may make it harder for the virus to live on surfaces, etc, and the spread may slow.

I'm no expert but have seen people taking both sides of this. It would be good to know if there is any truth to this.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9287 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:18 pm to
To be fair the highs in the big coastal cities in Australia such as Melbourne and Sydney, where the virus is rising, are only in the low to mid 70’s.

It’s already above that here. Think the hope is when. Start getting to upper 80’s, low 90’s and humid it’ll really get to this thing
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49872 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:19 pm to
SARS did fine in Africa when it was 105 degrees. May or may but matter
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:20 pm to
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Heat this bitch up and cook this virus out.


Trump, is that you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:34 pm to
25 here. Had a bigass avalanche on Thane Rd this morning.



Luckily I live across the channel.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Also all viruses don't spread as easily in warm/humid weather.


Lol. This is not true at all.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Other strains of coronavirus don't like warm temps. Also all viruses don't spread as easily in warm/humid weather.
The fact that people are arguing against a “common” yearly occurrence is a sign that panic has taken hold.

If this virus survives through summer temperatures, unlike most others, it is significantly outside of the norms.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:53 pm to
Different virus
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:54 pm to
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25 here. Had a bigass avalanche on Thane Rd this morning.


So your balls just disappear for half the year
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:56 pm to
There's no reason to believe it's not
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

So your balls just disappear for half the year


Nah, only if you're soft.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:59 pm to
Where's the data to support your assertion that this novel coronavirus is seasonal?

I will wait.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111643 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Theres zero reason to assume temperature kills this.


Why's it showing so little proliferation in warmer regions?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Lol. This is not true at all.
Lol. Yes it is.

Experiments have been done, mainly on influenza, which clearly shows that colder, drier climates result in easier spread.

Warmer, more humid climates result in significantly decreased spread.

There are other factors at play in the winter, such as less sunlight exposure and thus less vitamin D, resulting in a weakened immune system, and remaining in enclosed spaces, resulting in prolonged exposure.

But the data clearly shows that higher temperatures and higher humidity does, in fact, impact viral spread.

Scruffy’s prediction is that this will occur in the coming weeks.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:04 pm to
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Where's the data to support your assertion that this novel coronavirus is seasonal?
Where is your data to support that it isn’t?

Neither one of you can prove your assertion.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Why's it showing so little proliferation in warmer regions?


Singapore is equatorial, it is 90 degrees there today.

Singapore has confirmed cases, friend.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:08 pm to
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There is no reason to believe this is seasonal or susceptible to temperature variation.
And there is no reason to believe it isn’t seasonal.

We haven’t even gone through a season yet.

It is impossible to prove at this time, but there already theories.

This is from Bloomberg News:

quote:

A few researchers have prepared analyses on the subject, but none have been yet been published in scholarly journals, which require papers to be vetted by experts working in the same field. A group of U.S. and Iranian researchers concluded that the places Covid-19 infection has mostly taken hold so far -- such as Wuhan in central China, Milan and Seattle -- share similarly mild humidity and temperatures ranging from about 5 to 11 degrees Celsius (41 to 52 degrees Fahrenheit) in winter. In hotter, more humid places like Bangkok the virus has mainly been seen in people who brought it in from outside, and has not spread quickly through the community, the researchers said. However, they said predictions should be regarded with “extreme caution.”
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6387 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:08 pm to
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Lol. This is not true at all.


Um yes it is. There are 100 of studies on it. The humidity keeps the virus droplets from drifting as far and the heat and sun kill the virus faster when it attaches to surfaces

Also it has to do with the warmer climate allows people to be outside more and not in each other's personal space as much
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Experiments have been done, mainly on influenza, which clearly shows that colder, drier climates result in easier spread.


You and I know that influenza is structurally different from coronaviridae. Even various coronaviridae are structurally distinct from one another. Seasonal flu data have no bearing on this.

And you are extremely wrong about viral transmission in hot/humid climes. I can name several, and you can too.
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