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79 years ago today, the Hood is avenged
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:45 pm

Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:48 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:17 pm to Jim Rockford
The Hood blew up and amazingly 3 or 4 crewmen out of a total compliment of 1000 or so survived the explosion and sinking.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:25 pm to Jim Rockford
Can't imagine what it was like to be on deck of the Bismarck witnessing the carnage as she was being devastated by the British warships.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:36 pm to beachdude
quote:Naw main, do better.
The Hood blew up and amazingly 3 or 4 crewmen out of a total compliment of 1000 or so survived the explosion and sinking.
The Hood blew up and took 1,415 lives with it. Only three sailors survived from the ship, they were rescued after treading water for two hours after the ship went down.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:37 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
the Hood is avenged
I thought this thread was going to be about the Minneapolis riots. My bad.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:39 pm to PsychTiger
Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, the British reduced her to a hulk, but was the Bismarck scuttled?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:40 pm to Traveler
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Can’t imagine...deck of the Bismarck...
Imagine The Hood. A Bismarck HE shell found the Hood’s magazine and in an instant, she blew up. The ship was destroyed and sank in chunks with the loss of over 1000 crewmen. Only three survived and one of them lived to be almost 90 and died only in 2009. He never had much good to say about the Germans.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:47 pm to beachdude
IIRC, the Hood went down in minutes. The loss of life on her was almost instantaneous. The Bismarck held on for almost an hour and a half as shells rained down on her.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:04 pm to Jim Rockford
Good to remember--and remember too the 104th anniversary of the Battle of Jutland is this coming Sunday, May 31, and then the Battle of Midway on June 4 (next Thursday).
I think part of what fascinates us about the story of HMS Hood is how much we don't know. British battlecruisers had blown up catastrophically before. But we don't know where precisely was Hood hit, how the hit caused the loss, and even by whom it was hit (there's a theory that it was actually a shot from Prinz Eugen)--or of course what improvements would have prevented it. And then add the good-versus-evil angle that applies to everything related to Nazi Germany ...
As for whether Bismarck was sank by the British or scuttled: it seems pretty well established that its own crew opened valves that substantially hastened its sinking, but it also seems to me beyond intelligent debate that the British battleships had silenced Bismarck's guns and the British were in the process of sinking it with torpedoes when the Germans opened the valves. Sometimes a battleship succumbs faster or slower to torpedoes--compare the ends of two Japanese super-battleships almost identical to each other, Yamato (link to Wikipedia) and Musashi (link to Wikipedia)--but the ultimate outcome was not in doubt.
I think part of what fascinates us about the story of HMS Hood is how much we don't know. British battlecruisers had blown up catastrophically before. But we don't know where precisely was Hood hit, how the hit caused the loss, and even by whom it was hit (there's a theory that it was actually a shot from Prinz Eugen)--or of course what improvements would have prevented it. And then add the good-versus-evil angle that applies to everything related to Nazi Germany ...
As for whether Bismarck was sank by the British or scuttled: it seems pretty well established that its own crew opened valves that substantially hastened its sinking, but it also seems to me beyond intelligent debate that the British battleships had silenced Bismarck's guns and the British were in the process of sinking it with torpedoes when the Germans opened the valves. Sometimes a battleship succumbs faster or slower to torpedoes--compare the ends of two Japanese super-battleships almost identical to each other, Yamato (link to Wikipedia) and Musashi (link to Wikipedia)--but the ultimate outcome was not in doubt.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:31 pm to NOLATiger163
British tactical doctrine called for putting as much steel on target as fast as possible. This led to cutting corners such as leaving powder bags lying in the open instead of secured in fireproof containers. It almost certainly caused the battlecruiser losses at Jutland and likely had something to do with Hood's destruction.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:07 am to Jim Rockford
The whole battlecruiser philosophy was proven to be faulty. First at Jutland, then here with the Hood. And, yes, British gun-handling procedures were most likely the culprit.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:10 am to Jim Rockford
The Hood is getting avenged right now in Minneapolis.
Seriously though, good stuff. The Bismarck really was something. Too bad for the Germans it was like one of two good ships they had along with the Tirpitz.
Seriously though, good stuff. The Bismarck really was something. Too bad for the Germans it was like one of two good ships they had along with the Tirpitz.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 12:12 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:12 am to red sox fan 13
quote:I figured he was talking about some L.A. race riot of the '40s
The Hood is getting avenged right now in Minneapolis.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:17 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:23 am to TigerintheNO
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This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 12:26 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:24 am to fr33manator
Sabaton is fricking awesome
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