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re: 6 of 8 oil-producing states in recession

Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:27 am to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:27 am to
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A smart hedging strategy would reduce the impact of state revenue volatility significantly, but something tells me Louisiana's financial management isn't into that sort of thing.



Dramatically reduce corporate taxes in the tech industry to nationwide lows as incentive to put up shop in Louisiana. Then invest in fiber internet and allow office space to be written off on taxes for new businesses in the tech industry.

Something like that.


I was thinking more along the lines of how easy it is to reduce volatility using certain derivatives (futures, swaps, whatever) if your income is so heavily dependent on commodities, but yea, your idea can work, too.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:28 am to
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Instead, they made deals for themselves and screwed the state for an eternity. Life in Louisiana.


Relevant: Huey Long Descendants Have Made Hundreds of Millions from One Lease
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19896 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:30 am to
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what if in 4 or 8 years we elect a Democrat and oil production gets shut down again?


i don't think you understand. oil exploration wasn't "shut down." people are not drilling because their margins wouldn't be big enough due to saudis flooding the market.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:30 am to
Many oil producers based in Louisiana are seeking drilling opportunities in other states because of the "state regulations". The state has abused the oil industry just like they abused the tax payers for TOPS.

Bad decisions after bad decisions have created the mess that Louisiana faces.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:32 am to
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Many oil producers based in Louisiana are seeking drilling opportunities in other states because of the "state regulations". The state has abused the oil industry

Sorry, but that's a crock of shite sold to you by industry lobbyists. If they can produce oil economically here (pulling costs) then they will. Producers are flocking to the Permian right now because it's the cheapest place in the country to get oil out of the ground. That's it. Not because of taxes or "state regulations" or any other political bullshite.

There are 61 rigs drilling in Louisiana today, third behind Oklahoma at 87 and Texas at 331. Same as it's always been.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26076 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:33 am to
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We are paying millions to run traffic light "studies", loops, traffic at LSU games, riot controls,etc.


FIFY
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
774 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:33 am to
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Louisiana has nothing else.


What about all dat culture

Culture>Houston
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2977 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:37 am to
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Unless you cut taxes bigly to encourage business growth.


I don't know. Seems like Jindal tried that with all kinds of incentives. Doesn't look like it worked.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58799 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:37 am to
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Many oil producers based in Louisiana are seeking drilling opportunities in other states because of the "state regulations". The state has abused the oil industry just like they abused the tax payers for TOPS.


lol wut? Seeking drilling opportunities in other states? I don't think you understand how exploration and drilling works
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19896 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:40 am to
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What do you mean should LOUISIANA rely on such a volatile industry? What else do we have?



y'all can switch over all them oil fields to crawfish in the down time?
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5225 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 am to
Legalize marijuana and become the Colorado of the southeast= massive profit. Fwiw I don't even smoke.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45984 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:51 am to
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Look at our killer infrastructure & roads.



Serious question

Why not add tolls to highways & bridges to increase revenue for infrastructure?

Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58799 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:52 am to
Because Louisiana still find a way to frick up tolls with corruption
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:54 am to
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lol wut? Seeking drilling opportunities in other states? I don't think you understand how exploration and drilling works
It's not that difficult to understand. One customer of mine told me they would not drill another well in Louisiana and would only pursue future prospects from other states. It's really not that hard to understand.
Posted by DirtyMike
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:54 am to
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Unless you cut taxes bigly to encourage business growth


Like the previous governor? That worked out so well for us.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41884 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to
Too many corrupt conservatives have screwed the state. Little chance for recovery in the next 20 years.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:01 am to
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Sorry, but that's a crock of shite sold to you by industry lobbyists. If they can produce oil economically here (pulling costs) then they will. Producers are flocking to the Permian right now because it's the cheapest place in the country to get oil out of the ground. That's it. Not because of taxes or "state regulations" or any other political bull shite.
you might be right but that is not what a Louisiana operator told me.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62984 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:08 am to
Louisiana is certainly not the best business environment among oilfield states but to unequivocally state you will never drill another well in the state is just dumb and probably not true.

It makes a difference but it isn't so drastic people would just ignore some large discovery in the state.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293733 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:10 am to
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Too many corrupt conservatives have screwed the state. Little chance for recovery in the next 20 years.


Lololol
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:11 am to
Keystone also means the price of oil will go lower in the future not higher and that should impact the Louisiana budget even more. Until you get rid of the state government spending nothing will change here.
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