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re: 46 years ago today the gales of November came early...

Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:39 am to
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Why did the big ship go down? Negligence? McSorley pushing too hard? A "three sisters" rogue wave? Did they bounce off the six fathom shoal? Defective hatch covers?


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Rogue waves may form even in lakes, via a phenomenon known as the "Three Sisters," in which three large waves form at the same time, and can strike a vessel in quick succession, creating a large backwash and overloading a ship's deck with water.


I watched several videos on YT about the EF recently. I think it had to be a version of the Three Sisters that destroyed the vessel.

The stark damage to the bow and the clean split-in-two of the ship indicates the EF went down in a vertical position, and fast. I think the rogue waves lifted it up and then slammed it against the bottom bow-first.

The crew had no chance to survive, or even to launch lifeboats, which had been sheared from their racks because of the impact. They were heavily damaged.

Only one body was ever sighted, near the hull of the bow half of the ship. It lay face up on the bottom of the lake.

The wreck was declared to be a burial monument and will not be disturbed.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18900 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:44 am to
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What's even more eerie is that Gordon Lightfoot know what the old cook said.


Exact same comment a year ago in this thread...still not that funny
Posted by stratman
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:46 am to
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The song reads more like a poem in that it doesn’t have a chorus and tells a story. Is that what you’re getting at?




I get it. The poetry of the lyrics flow. The chorus itself is the haunting melody that is between some of the versus and at the end of the song. Anyone who's ever heard the song knows the melody I'm talking of and it's instantly identifiable with this masterpiece.

The good ones, the really good ones, come fast and almost write themselves.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:51 am to
LINK

Lake Superior waves.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Exact same comment a year ago in this thread...still not that funny


Tough crowd.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:02 pm to
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Like 'The Rectum of Ella Fitzgerald'.


Thanks for that. I haven’t laughed that hard for a long time.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Tough crowd.



No. Stupid comment.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:38 pm to
Does it show my age that I know more songs on that random weekly Billboard top 100 than I know of all songs written over the past 10 years combined?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:39 pm to
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When something is inspired it just flows. There’s no agonizing over this word or that rhyme.
You just write, as if possessed, and when you are finished you look back and say “damn…I wrote this?” It’s like a dream state.


Well stated and true.

However I would be lying if I said that some of my best work didn't come while sitting on the shitter....
Posted by LetTheTigerOut
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 12:18 am
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:59 pm to
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Billboard Hot 100 for 11/19/1976


That is a pretty good playlist right there.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72330 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:08 pm to
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Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot did a really good job of capturing the feel and tone of that event with that song. It was well done


Every Sunday on one of the local radio in B’ham stations (96.5) they play classic American Top 40 from this week I’m 1980something. Every Sunday I’ll listen to it while I work at my model desk. This past Sunday was from 1985 I think. On that episode Casey Kasim played this song as a tribute for the anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I’d forgot how much I love that song. I had to immediately go and add it to my Spotify playlist.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133583 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:35 pm to
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get it. The poetry of the lyrics flow. The chorus itself is the haunting melody that is between some of the versus and at the end of the song. Anyone who's ever heard the song knows the melody I'm talking of and it's instantly identifiable with this masterpiece. The good ones, the really good ones, come fast and almost write themselves.



Agreed. I’ve got a good buddy who is amazing on the guitar and he’ll come over sometimes and we’ll jam.

He plays a version of this when I’m doing the lines, it’s good stuff.

Need to get with him again soon.

There’s just something about that chord progression, the melody…it just FEELS like stormy waters on the Great Lakes, it’s got a cadence that rocks back and forth like a ship on the water.
You are right, the chorus, in a sense, is the name of the ship, the Edmund Fitzgerald, and the stanzas are the waves and the water repeatedly breaking on it. Kind of an endless rhythm,

Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:59 pm to
We sometimes refer to "Lake Michigan" as the "Michigan Ocean". You can't see the other side, you can detect the curvature of the Earth.

They don't call them the "Great Lakes" for nothin'.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52503 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Were weather stations forecast behind time in the late 70's?

I’ll say! A herd of sheep on the side of a mountain was as good as weather forecasting technology in the 70’s.
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:10 pm to
fricker is a freshwater ocean
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:18 pm to
Such a haunting, yet great song about that tragedy.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:52 pm to
I've stood under that bridge when a huge freighter sounded her horn. It was one of the loudest noises I ever heard.

I had my 18 month old daughter in my arms. She screamed her head off.
Posted by Texas Ram
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 8:19 pm to
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