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re: 4-year-old girl missing since 2019 found alive, hidden under stairs in NY

Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79504 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:58 pm to
I'm sure people will interpret this the wrong way, but it doesn't seem clear she was living under the stairs or being kept there. I say that based on how tiny that space is and the fact that her abductor, which sounds like a parent, was in there with her. The alternative obviously being that it was a hiding place to avoid being caught when people poked around the parent's house looking for a kidnapped child.

That possibility is bolstered by the line about her being in good health/condition. Anyway, even if it was short term it's obviously selfish and perhaps damaging, but I'm not sure this is one of those "kept a kid in a cage for years" things.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8549 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Damn hide the child for years and get out the same day?


Reading between the lines, one of the parents of the child took the child from the custodial parent. The police knew this and came over to find the kid, but the abducting parent would temporarily hide the kid under the stairs of his relatives house where he/she was living to avoid her being found by the police.

The two people released are likely the relatives.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79633 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:59 pm to
Wow that is amazing. You hear about stories like this where the detectives completely miss something.

Off with the captors head. ASAP.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24190 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:00 pm to
Shoulda left her there. She could have become the greatest wizard of all time...

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78232 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:01 pm to
That is one serious game of Hide & Seek
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124922 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:02 pm to
This likely isn’t some heinous thing like it seems.

One parent has custody and won’t share with other parent
Other parent takes kid. She is living normally with other parent for 2 years. Parent gets a tip the cops are coming to find her and they hurriedly hide under the stairs and get quickly found. They were probably under the stairs less than an hour. Not living there.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65526 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Reading between the lines, one of the parents of the child took the child from the custodial parent. The police knew this and came over to find the kid, but the abducting parent would temporarily hide the kid under the stairs of his relatives house where he/she was living to avoid her being found by the police.

The two people released are likely the relatives.

Based on other posts, it looks like parents lost custody of their child to an aunt of the child. My guess is the child was removed from her parents home by social services and placed with aunt. Parents then abducted their own child of whom they did not have legal custody any longer. Still not a good situation but doesn't appear to be your standard kidnapping situation or "kid in a cage" that I assume most were imagining when first reading the article. That's likely also why the charges aren't as severe as the usually would be.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24175 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:03 pm to
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Cooper was charged with custodial interference in the second degree and misdemeanor endangering the welfare of a child

Pretty clear this was sloppily written. This is the first of two places they mention this Cooper lady. No first name in either, but it’s clear she’s the abductor.


I’m guess this Cooper and one of the Schultis men are this girl’s biological parents, which they were terrible at, and lost the child to the system or some other form of “custodial parents.”

I wonder if they were hidden in that room at all times, or only when the police arrived for a search.

Likely why the chargers aren’t more severe at this time.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted by leftyloosey
Member since Jan 2022
574 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:04 pm to
Obviously I don't know the details but if some court took my child away for any reason, this would be me. I'm not a drug addict though so it would be a major abuse by someone if it did.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81324 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Still not a good situation but doesn't appear to be your standard kidnapping situation or "kid in a cage" that I assume most were imagining when first reading the article. That's likely also why the charges aren't as severe as the usually would be.



And you just know the article was written the way it was intentionally. I hate the media.

It is a shitty thing for the parents to have done without implying they locked the child in a cage for 2 years.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8549 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:09 pm to
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I’m guess this Cooper and one of the Schultis men are this girl’s biological parents


Correct. The article called them Non-custodial parents. If they had called them biological parents who lost custody, it would not have been sensational enough to match the headline of "Missing 4 year old girl found alive under stairs"

frick. All. Journalists.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65526 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:09 pm to
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Obviously I don't know the details but if some court took my child away for any reason, this would be me. I'm not a drug addict though so it would be a major abuse by someone if it did.

Parents have to be pretty big frickups for both to completely lose custody. The state bends over backwards to try to rehabilitate parents who have issues. To permanently lose custody probably means drug use the parents refused to address.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65526 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:10 pm to
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The article called them Non-custodial parents. If they had called them biological parents who lost custody, it would not have been sensational enough to match the headline of "Missing 4 year old girl found alive under stairs"

I wouldn't put that on the news source. Non-custodial parent is a legal term and not incorrectly applied here. I will admit, people reading the article may not interpret that term correctly.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91202 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:14 pm to
A case where cops should have shot him on the spot because he “resisted”
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30434 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Hang the person that did this. That is the only justice.




Sounds like the people that took her were her biological parents that abducted her from her (probably state mandated) legal guardian. No wonder she was in the custody of someone other than her parents. They are terrible people.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8549 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:16 pm to
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I wouldn't put that on the news source. Non-custodial parent is a legal term and not incorrectly applied here


Yeah, you right. It is indeed correct. It is the click bait headline that makes we want to take my Broadcast Journalism degree and wipe my arse with it in shame at what that industry has become.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35298 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Hang the person that did this. That is the only justice.


That’s wayyyy too civilized.

They deserve the Assyrian treatment.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16659 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:19 pm to
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4-year-old who went missing more than two years ago was found alive by police on Monday, hidden underneath a staircase in a New York home.


I typed and deleted 5 different responses because this infuriates me. I am not sure if there is such thing as a Heaven but I certainly hope there is a Hell for these people.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Hang the person that did this.


This! ...slowly. Very, very slowly.

No, slower than that.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6285 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Whoever named that kid Paislee should serve some time as well.



Kid is obviously from the LP
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