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re: $3k a month in San Fran gets you a 282 sq ft apartment
Posted on 10/10/15 at 8:50 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 10/10/15 at 8:50 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Yeah and you will see those same people every day except the once in a blue moon someone new moves in or someone visits.
Sorry but that is just not the ideal situation for someone to develop in to a well rounded person
You don't have a very realistic view of what it's like to live outside of an urban area. Your statement above is a possibility, but it's not the only possibility.
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 9:10 pm to FT
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And going to fairs, and festivals, and theater, and restaurants, and movies, and concerts, and museums, and sporting events, and bars, and...
Too bad you can't afford these things when paying 40k a year in housing that is < a cheap college dorm room.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 9:17 pm to Athletix
Salaries in San Fran are significantly higher than wherever you live . . .
Posted on 10/10/15 at 9:19 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Sorry but that is just not the ideal situation for someone to develop in to a well rounded person
define "well rounded person"
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't know. I find a lot of the people here are just sheltered in an opposite fashion than a "rural" raised individual. Many don't understand the concept of space, personal or dwelling, they also lack understanding of how the other half of the country lives. I don't think living in an urban area will make my daughters any more well rounded than their cousins in alabama. I sometimes fear it will make them more jaded and less tolerant of others.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:18 pm to jennBN
Don't forget that if you spend your extra income on home ownership, you may very well get that money back when you cash out. Thats a big advantage Californians and NYCers have over us. It's leverage into a better life somewhere else.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:But what is the purpose for the acreage? Is it not to have your own bubble so to speak?
Depends on the individual. Not everyone was meant to live like rats stuffed in a vertically organized cage. A yard, an acre, some acreage. Just depends on the individual.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:28 pm to jennBN
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I don't know. I find a lot of the people here are just sheltered in an opposite fashion than a "rural" raised individual. Many don't understand the concept of space, personal or dwelling, they also lack understanding of how the other half of the country lives. I don't think living in an urban area will make my daughters any more well rounded than their cousins in alabama. I sometimes fear it will make them more jaded and less tolerant of others.
I imagine rural folk would give the same exact answer referring to Urban dwellers. I find urbanites who live in very dense areas can be kind of snobbish and lack understanding of their rural counterparts.
Most people with the means can experience both, live near an urban area but still find their comfortable place away from the noise and pollution. I like the size of the community I live, but looking to downsize in a few years.
Being "well rounded" is subjective IMO. Just find where you're comfortable and run with it.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:32 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Depends on the individual. Not everyone was meant to live like rats stuffed in a vertically organized cage. A yard, an acre, some acreage. Just depends on the individual.
But what is the purpose for the acreage? Is it not to have your own bubble so to speak?
Everyone has their own bubble. It doesn't mean you fail to interact with people. Hell, you can live in the city in a high rise and never interact with your neighbors.
I've got a friend who has 20 acres outside of Redmond, Washington and lives in relative peace and quiet. However, he spends quite a bit of time 30 minutes away in Seattle.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I ha e a lot of friends in the bay area and just spent 3 weeks out there hanging with them. To a person, they all felt fortunate to live out there. Rents/ mortgage was the only negative. And all agreed the expense was worth it. A couple of friends live in Fairfax about 30 minutes north in Marin county and that is the coolest little town. Very all american....they refer to it as Mayberry......on acid.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Make enough money and have both, the apt in the city and the country house, if that's what you are in to. I have enjoyed both, just not at the same time. The OT has an unbalanced slant towards rural living. I would bet most of those folks have not experienced the convienence of walking to everything.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 10:51 pm to Zappas Stache
It's beautiful country, no doubt. I don't believe I could afford to live in that area though.
Like I said earlier, expensive places are expensive for a reason, they are highly desirable places to live.
Like I said earlier, expensive places are expensive for a reason, they are highly desirable places to live.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:34 pm to jennBN
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Wrong on so many levels. How often do you come here?
I live in the bay area. I am not wrong on anything. Taxes are high. I get taxed out the arse while the rest of the scum lives off their socialist system, San Francisco is a top safe haven for illegals, all lot of California is. I come from the the south and I've been all over the country. I know the difference between an American city and a foreign city. There is nothing American about California. Nothing but a harbor for trash that other countries clean out. You can barely communicate because English is a secondary language.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:41 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Same here. I wouldn't live in a city if it was free. I got to be in a place I can take a piss in my back yard if I feel like it. I need quiet surroundings and a chance to see the milky way. Living like an insect is not my idea of living.
I live in a city, can piss in my backyard, and am in walking distance or a short DART ride of everything I need
Dallas FTW
This post was edited on 10/10/15 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:53 pm to Jim Rockford
Why is everything so high over there?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 6:32 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Would rather live in a cardboard box in the country, than a giant house in the middle of the city.
FYP
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:39 am to Ace Midnight
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fill up those greenspaces (if it were allowed) with housing
sure, fill in GG Park. Fill in Central Park too. That'd make NY more livable.
Maybe start a tech boom in Ball, to help ease the strain on SF.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:10 am to Mung
I thought the blacks in Baltimore were bad, but they're nothing compared to the figs you got in San Francisco.
- Kenny Powers
- Kenny Powers
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:28 am to HVO Joker
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I live in the bay area
i'm guessing Oakland? American Canyon? prolly not the City. You seem too mad.
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There is nothing American about California
Maybe move back to South Alabama and be happier.
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