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3D printing your own braces
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:52 am to MontyFranklyn
Comments from dental hygienists were saying he could've moved them too quickly or not at the correct angle, and runs the risk of losing his teeth.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:57 am to Ingeniero
So then he could print his own dentures. Cool!
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:58 am to Ingeniero
Of course thy will say that. They would miss out on lots of money.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:01 am to Ingeniero
quote:I'm a little skeptical of their opinions. Not that they are wrong, but if this catches on it could put a lot of them out work. They have selfish motivations.
Comments from dental hygienists were saying he could've moved them too quickly or not at the correct angle, and runs the risk of losing his teeth.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:03 am to MontyFranklyn
It was a pretty straightforward case. If he didn't "slenderize" the teeth he probably ended up with a pretty large over jet.
The hygienists always think they know more than they do.
The hygienists always think they know more than they do.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:07 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:07 am to MontyFranklyn
Yeah, self-orthodontics is a brilliant idea.
One of the assistants at LSU used to bitch about being able to do everything the orthodontist can do because she could put brackets on. Zero understanding that the manual work is the easy part - the treatment planning and knowledge of the mechanics is what you go to school for.
Something as simple as moving the teeth too quickly can cause root resorption and loss of your teeth. Not to mention severe TMJ problems that can result from malocclusion...
Can't help but laugh at the responses about having $20K of dental work done for a fraction in foreign countries.
I've seen someone have thousands of dental work done by their own relative in South America, and it caused problems that cost 2-3x what it would have cost if done right from the start. I don't think the dentist even had the training to recognize how bad their own work was. People don't realize that things like crown and bridge work have to be accurate down to a few microns or it's worthless. And the problems often don't become evident until a few years later - people don't even know their teeth are rotting away beneath all that pretty porcelain.
Ignorance is bliss, indeed.
One of the assistants at LSU used to bitch about being able to do everything the orthodontist can do because she could put brackets on. Zero understanding that the manual work is the easy part - the treatment planning and knowledge of the mechanics is what you go to school for.
Something as simple as moving the teeth too quickly can cause root resorption and loss of your teeth. Not to mention severe TMJ problems that can result from malocclusion...
Can't help but laugh at the responses about having $20K of dental work done for a fraction in foreign countries.
Ignorance is bliss, indeed.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:14 am to MontyFranklyn
The dentists that are ahead of the game are already doing this. They can scan the teeth and print their own trays, guides, appliances, etc.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:15 am to MontyFranklyn
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Kid at NJIT did this. It may start catching on. Pretty damn cool and cheap as frick
Except for the fact that he ordered alginate, and what he needed to mix it, somehow got some dental trays to put the alginate in. Then used a 3d scanner, $2-3k to scan it. Then used a 3d printer, probably $10k at that resolution, then another couple hundred in 3d material to print that many modified copies. Then he used a dental suck down machine, $500, and material, $100. But yea, cheap.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:17 am to 911Moto
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And the problems often don't become evident until a few years later - people don't even know their teeth are rotting away beneath all that pretty porcelain.
Had that happen. A crown that cost me $1500 and then the tooth rotted and got replaced by an implant that cost me $3500 (with insurance)
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:22 am to 911Moto
Just a little overprepped. Good news it lasted 10 months before falling out. And no, your gums shouldn't look like a firetruck around a crown. Nice case of biologic width invasion.
The top teeth look ok I guess if you walk around with your head permanently cocked to the side so the teeth will be even.
Wilbur, come into the room.
I love vacation dentistry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The top teeth look ok I guess if you walk around with your head permanently cocked to the side so the teeth will be even.
Wilbur, come into the room.
I love vacation dentistry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:34 am to MontyFranklyn
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are you in dental school?
Are you?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:36 am to MontyFranklyn
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are you in dental school
No, I retired 5 years ago after practicing for 20 years.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:37 am to MontyFranklyn
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I'm a little skeptical of their opinions. Not that they are wrong, but if this catches on it could put a lot of them out work. They have selfish motivations.
When someone goes to get aligners, you don't think they are paying for the plastic do you?
The analysis and treatment plan is where the value is.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:39 am to uptownsage
It is obvious that you can't fix every dental need with a cheap option. I'm just pointing out that this kid was able to straighten one tooth by doing it himself.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:42 am to MontyFranklyn
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“I’m impressed with the way [he] was able to use the scanning and printing technology that he had available to engineer and produce his own aligners but a little frightened that he would actually use them to treat himself without a professional assessment of the health and function of the teeth.” The dental professional added, “In fact, when looking at the images of the DIYer’s teeth, there are specific areas of tooth wear visible that indicate unbalanced function and possible nighttime grinding.”
My interpretation of this is "We tell you not to do this as it will cause many of us to be out of work or no longer to charge you and arm and leg for our services"
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:46 am to uptownsage
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And no, your gums shouldn't look like a firetruck around a crown
I used to love Dr. Bruggers' philosophy in clinic at LSU. When you had a patient in for crown prep and asked him at the end of the appointment if he needed to check off your temporary, he'd say, "No, I'll just check the tissue when you get them back in for the next appointment."
That always made me refine my margins on the temporary just a little bit more.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:47 am
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