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re: 30 years ago today Eastern Airlines goes to the airline graveyard.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:42 pm to DesScorp
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:42 pm to DesScorp
Not to be confused with Trump Force One:
I flew 1st class on AA San Jose-DFW-MCO back in '04 and there were still a lot of TWA markings around the cabin. It felt like nothing had changed since the time I flew TWA from the MW to HOU Hobby in the early 90s. I'm sure it's out west in the graveyard now. I wish I was old enough to have flown PanAm.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:54 pm to Agent K
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Eastern was great to fly. Beat Delta hands down.
Not at the end. My dad always regarded Eastern employees as surly (in the '80s). Lots of labor strife at Eastern.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:32 am to Reservoir dawg
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Virgin America
Was hands down the best flying experience this century. After the Alaska takeover you could still get lucky and a legacy Virgin plane on a flight for a couple of years.
Alaska is by no means bad, but the level of customer service and in-flight amenities isn't near what Virgin had.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:30 am to Reservoir dawg
Eastern was the first airplane I rode in. The "Stewardesses" were very hot in those days and feminine. 
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:42 am to Reservoir dawg
First time I ever flew was in a Northwest Airlines DC-9 from BTR to MEM. I sincerely think flying was better in this region when there was a hub in Memphis. After acquiring NWA, Delta kept the MEM hub around until 2015 or so, but consolidated everything to Atlanta like they always do.
They did something similar with Cincy.
The lunch on the NWA plane was a pulled pork sandwich from Interstate BBQ’s airline catering business. It was nice.
There will be no new airline hubs in the US for a long time. If anything, MSY has a better chance of being a hub than MEM does. It would be best for the whole region if one of those airports gets to hub status.
Delta is probably the best of the major US airlines now, but they were ruthless when it came to buying and gutting competitors like NWA.
They did something similar with Cincy.
The lunch on the NWA plane was a pulled pork sandwich from Interstate BBQ’s airline catering business. It was nice.
There will be no new airline hubs in the US for a long time. If anything, MSY has a better chance of being a hub than MEM does. It would be best for the whole region if one of those airports gets to hub status.
Delta is probably the best of the major US airlines now, but they were ruthless when it came to buying and gutting competitors like NWA.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 6:46 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:44 am to rd280z
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The "Stewardesses" were very hot in those days and feminine.
As they should be.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:06 am to Reservoir dawg
Hooters Air
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:31 am to Reservoir dawg
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Why did Panam end up shutting down, not really familiar with their history.
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They started losing money in the mid 80s and relied heavily on international routes, many of which were facing declining demand due to economic factors and terrorism. Their airplanes were old and competition was running the show on domestic flying. Fuel prices went up and then the Gulf War happened. They dried up.
Don't forget they didn't have a domestic feeder network at all, so they overpaid for National. National was a very weak sister to mainliners like AA and UAL. It also led to a very wide variety of planes in the fleet.
Finally, the 767 was a revolutionary idea in Transatlantic. Only two engines and smaller than a 747, DC10, etc.. and made transatlantic travel viable from places like Cincinnati rather than just JFK and Dulles.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:40 am to DesScorp
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In short, this mook would rather be reduced to driving a cab to spite them rather than to take a pay cut and make 5 figures flying airliners.
Brainwashing is a bitch.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:16 am to Reservoir dawg
I flew in to the Atlanta airport from California that night at 11:30pm. Got home and saw that they announced it at midnight.
You would have never known it at the airport 30 mins before it happened. I think it was a huge surprise to everyone.
I lived in a small town close to the Atlanta airport. A lot of people there worked at the Atlanta airport. One guy on our road had worked fir Eastern his entire life. He lost everything just a year from retirement.
Killed himself 6 months later.
You would have never known it at the airport 30 mins before it happened. I think it was a huge surprise to everyone.
I lived in a small town close to the Atlanta airport. A lot of people there worked at the Atlanta airport. One guy on our road had worked fir Eastern his entire life. He lost everything just a year from retirement.
Killed himself 6 months later.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:06 am to DesScorp
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My boss said "Wow, sorry about that, I bet you miss flying". And the cabbie went "Yeah... but we showed them".
That cabbie's understanding of corporate bankruptcy and its real impact is severely lacking.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:10 am to Reservoir dawg
Flew Eastern on our honeymoon 8 months before they went el foldo.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:26 am to DesScorp
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With employees like that, they were eff'd regardless of Icahns and such.
nice anecdotal but not true, pilots were on board for concessions, mechanics, sensing that Eastern was done with, wouldn't budge, too many Franks and a George
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:51 am to Reservoir dawg
My first jet flight was on a Eastern DC-10 from N.O Lakefront to Miami. Flew TTA (Trans Texas Airlines) from Ft. Polk to N.O. My father called it Teeter Totter Airlines lol. Anyway on the way back all airlines went on strike so we had to stay a night at Miami Int. Airport hotel. My father had a good friend that owned two DC-3's and sent one down to pick my family up. On that flight I noticed gas coming out of the top fuel cap on the starboard wing. Dad looked at it (he was a navy pilot)and said it was no big deal. Had to be honest I felt a little uneasy on the flight back.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:19 am to stlslick
TWA going under completely boned the St Louis airport. St Louis was the biggest hub for TWA and built a $1.1 billion runway around 2000 right as TWA went under. The runway is really far away from the gates and is barely used now with the massive decrease in traffic.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:24 am to The Boat
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TWA going under
should have happened forty years ago, Gephardt helped keep them around, one of the funniest, and historically accurate things about that Howard Hughes movie starring DiCaprio was that Hughes was constantly pulling money from his own pocket to keep Teeny-Weeny afloat because they were incapable of sustaining themselves
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:07 pm to MSUDawg98
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Not to be confused with Trump Force One:
I was thinking Trump Air but honestly there are so many industries to choose from with the Orange Overlord
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:56 pm to FCP
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I remember going to some exhibit sponsored by Eastern Airlines at Magic Kingdom (Orlando) as a kid. Saw it there one year, then gone the following year.
It was called If You Had Wings.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:17 pm to The Boat
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TWA going under completely boned the St Louis airport. St Louis was the biggest hub for TWA and built a $1.1 billion runway around 2000 right as TWA went under. The runway is really far away from the gates and is barely used now with the massive decrease in traffic.
That, and American Airlines lying to STL Airport about making it a Hub, then getting a ton of kick backs, tax breaks, etc and giving them the finger.
AA is such a scumbag corp as well.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:21 pm to NoBoDawg
How ever long it took was too quick. I do remember looking thru the cockpit door out the windscreen.
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