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re: 3 shark attacks in Destin in the last 5 hours

Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12061 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:17 pm to
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South Walton LEO out in force


Any sharks taken into custody?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6911 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:18 pm to
That has nothing to do with it. Bait from piers don’t attract sharks. I’ve caught two sharks in my life both within 1( minutes of each other on an isolated beach with no pier in sight.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6806 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:18 pm to
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I never hear of stuff like this when I vacation in Holly Beach either.


Not sure a shark could survive eating someone at Holly Beach.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:19 pm to
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Any sharks taken into custody?


All sharks are presumed guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
3070 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:19 pm to
10-20’ off the shore you’re usually good. You go out to the sand bars - roll in the dice
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:20 pm to
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Your position is one-sided and obtuse.


Nah.

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If a hiker goes in the woods and gets mauled by a bear or a mountain lion, oh well, shouldn't have gone in the woods.


You post that as though it's self-evidently fallacious, but it's not.

If you go where dangerous wild animals live, you run the risk of encountering dangerous wild animals.

That's what seems self-evident to me.

Parks and preserves warn hikers and campers when they are entering areas where dangerous wild animals have been observed.

The difference is, like he said, humans do not share an underwater living environment with sea creatures. We don't have constructed/developed human habitats underwater that dangerous wild animals learn to avoid like the dangerous wild animals learn to avoid our land developments. They are invaders/visitors/aliens in developed human habitats. We are the invaders/visitors/aliens in wild/undeveloped habitats.

Beneath the surface of the ocean is pretty much 100% a wild habitat. None of us live down there. We're always visitors.

You keep using the word "fault," which I don't think is a very accurate word.

The correct word in my opinion would be "risk."

And yeah, every time we get in the ocean we are risking encountering an animal that could harm us, whether it's a jellyfish or a shark. Sure, there's areas of greater or lesser risk, but there's still a risk.

There's a risk every time you get in a car and go somewhere. My mother died in 2022 in a car accident barely more than a mile from her house (which is what the statistics predict). That wasn't her "fault" (well, actually it was according to the accident report, but it wouldn't necessarily be her fault just because she chose to drive somewhere and died), but she did accept the risk associated with driving, which was slightly elevated due to the fact that it was at dusk and she was elderly.

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If an old 70+ woman is walking to her car at a restaurant in Yellowstone and a bison gores her in the parking lot


Tell you what, the next time a shark crawls up through the sand and bites someone in the beach parking lot, let me know.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:21 pm to
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If a hiker goes in the woods and gets mauled by a bear or a mountain lion, oh well, shouldn't have gone in the woods.

Do you know that we don't kill every bear or mountain lion that attacks someone? Do you know why that is?

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If a guy is mowing his lawn and runs over a yellow jacket nest and dies from Anaphylaxis, it's his fault for mowing his lawn against Mother Nature's wishes.

You're just being dumb with this one.

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If an old 70+ woman is walking to her car at a restaurant in Yellowstone and a bison gores her in the parking lot, it's her fault for walking from the entrance to her car in the parking lot.

Still dumb, and most bison encounters are the fault of the person, and don't result in putting down the bison.

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If a Hilton Head resident in a retirement community is refilling her bird feeder and a large alligator comes out of the lagoon and kills her, it was her fault for refilling her bird feeder.


Possibly the dumbest part of your post.

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Humans and the other predators of the world can absolutely live in balance.

Yes, they can.

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But balance means balance.

Balance doesn't mean you fault the fricking animal for doing what it does. You certainly don't take a vengeful approach to it.

Stop being a dumb and borderline condescending twat.
This post was edited on 6/7/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
3070 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:22 pm to
70-80% it usually a Bull. They don’t stop until they want to stop.. Hammers and Tigers are hunting turtles and stingrays & usually mistake us. Bulls go after anything
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10811 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:23 pm to
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I've recently started snorkeling out to the artificial reefs in the 30a area


What artificial reefs are there off 30a? Never heard of that. You’re telling us there is something you can reach from the beach? Not buying that.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2620 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:24 pm to
Can't prove it, but I bet bull sharks are responsible for more attacks (not fatalities) on humans than great whites and tigers combined.

Bull sharks are bad news.

Posted by SauceBawse
Member since Mar 2022
246 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:25 pm to
Check out google earth for views of the reefs.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213179 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:26 pm to
I just keep things simple… the sharks don’t come where I am at, so I don’t go where they are….
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10811 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:26 pm to
This sort of thing happens, but is very rare. Crazy to have multiple attacks is such a small area.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Can't prove it, but I bet bull sharks are responsible for more attacks (not fatalities) on humans than great whites and tigers combined.

Bull sharks are bad news.


Indeed.

And those buggers will swim upstream into rivers.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
1051 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:29 pm to
Pridenado
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:29 pm to
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Can't prove it, but I bet bull sharks are responsible for more attacks (not fatalities) on humans than great whites and tigers combined.

Bull sharks are bad news.

The International Shark Attack File tracks it the best that anyone can. Bulls are still third in their "Confirmed Unprovoked Attack" category behind the other two you listed.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
1857 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:30 pm to
It's climate change
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:31 pm to
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This sort of thing happens, but is very rare. Crazy to have multiple attacks is such a small area.


Yes, the incident that inspired the movie Jaws was like this.

1916. They also suspected a bull shark. Specifically because two of the attacks happened in fresh water.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3102 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:31 pm to
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What artificial reefs are there off 30a?



"reef" is a bit generous. Its concrete pilings dotted in the shape in some sea theme. But it does the job of attracting wildlife. One is off Topsail park and one is off Grayton park. There is a few more elsewhere too I think. They are a long ways out and swimming that far is a bit sketchy. The last few times I've taking a kayak or paddleboard. IIRC they are about a 1000ft off the beach....like I said, wherever the second bar starts to drop off.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Yes, the incident that inspired the movie Jaws was like this.

1916. They also suspected a bull shark. Specifically because two of the attacks happened in fresh water.

They also believed sharks were venomous back in those days and doctors were hesitant to work on bite victims.
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