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re: 3/4s of millennials are more than $100,000 in debt, most not from mortgages

Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
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Why can't Millennials live below their means?



I reckon the same reasons every other generation alive can't.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:59 pm to
Let's talk about prosecutors and crime.

What generation are the woke prosecutors and judges? Are they millennials. Who appointed them?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:59 pm to
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Boomers said cigarettes were healthy
no they didn’t
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:00 pm to
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What generation are the woke prosecutors and judges? Are they millennials. Who appointed them?



Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials


You are coming off as unhinged
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Why can't Millennials live below their means?

A. Don't want to sacrifice lifestyle
B. Don't have a choice in the matter
C. Don't know chit about personal finance
D. YOLO, suck it


I imagine there are plenty in each of these categories.

Some millennials are actually successful, save money, build wealth, etc. It's almost like every other generation in history.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:01 pm to
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the best way to make a living getting a JD is to be woke influencer or an ambulance chaser.
No
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:04 pm to
Haven’t read the whole thread so maybe someone has pointed it out, but there are some odd assertions in this survey. For starters:
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- Nearly half of millennials with debt (48%) say they have student loans, with the average respondent owing $126,993.

The survey says they polled millennials on how much student loan debt they had, with the following responses:
$10,000-$99,999: 54%
$100,000-$199,999: 12%
$200,000-$299,999: 11%
$300,000-$399,999: 9%
$400,000-$499,999: 8%
$500,000: 5%

The statement is incredibly misleading. The survey results say:
- 72% of millennials have non-mortgage debt.
- Of that 72%, 48% (35% overall) have student loan debt.
- Of that 35%, 46% (16% overall) have >$100,000 in student loan debt.

So the survey results find that 16% of millennials have >$100k in student loan debt, but declares that “The Average Millennial Owes More Than $100,000 in Student Loan Debt” (in large font as a section heading, no less).

This is probably due to a rather dubious use of averages vs. medians (which are far more meaningful) along with a failure to properly qualify that they are talking about specific subgroups. I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of millennials with student loan debt >$100k are doctors and lawyers (ETA: Or high-end B-school grads as someone suggested below.)

Regardless of the reason, it’s enough for me to conclude that this “Real Estate Witch” survey is probably garbage.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 9:09 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:05 pm to
Ouch
Posted by tigercross
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:06 pm to
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Unless it’s law (not unequivocally, but very dependent on school ranking and/or specific practice group) or med school - you have to be an absolute moron to incur >$30/40k for any postgraduate degree


What about a place like GSB, Booth, or Sloan where you can come out making $170-200k?
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Abstract Queso Dip



Put down your white claw and eat something. It's time for bed.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:10 pm to
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I’m 24 and will be 115k in the hole after PT school, but living within my means and also doing travel PT allows me to pay it back. 39k for 13 weeks of work is how I’ll slowly get back to 0 debt, don’t lump us all into the same group


What do PT’s make after a few years? Is $3k per week tops?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:12 pm to
B and C
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Nearly three quarters of millennials are more than $100,000 in debt, most not from mortgages
this is extremely misleading
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:14 pm to
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These reports always suck. There are over 70 million millennials and they surveyed 1k of them — probably a bunch of kids from liberal arts schools that are waiting tables in an a big city.

Here’s more focused data on student loans and it says 14.8mil millennials have student loan debt at an average of $38,877.


The fact that so many of the OT bought the numbers in OP hook line and sinker shows how retarded this place has become.


The average student loan debt in the US is about 32k per the Fed and Millenials hold BY FAR those most student loan debt of any generation. And this survey is supposed to convince us that the average millennial (that holds SL debt) is holding nearly 4x the average?

Y'all should have seen this was BS on it's face.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:14 pm to
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Hell, I found out last week I really don’t even know what the true professionals in my industry make


How old are you?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:15 pm to
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I was an individual contributor in an engineering/technical role until about 3 years ago. Recently made a position change to a role with greater responsibilities and am now seeing/hearing what some long time professionals were/are making.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Unless it’s law (not unequivocally, but very dependent on school ranking and/or specific practice group) or med school - you have to be an absolute moron to incur >$30/40k for any postgraduate degree


This couldn't be further from the truth
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:16 pm to
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no they didn’t


Please... And Just remember, he's pretty good at debate (master debater?)..
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:17 pm to
how the fuuuuck do you get 100k in debt besides a mortgage??? Even a credit card will max you out at like 25k tops and at that point you take out a lower APY loan. From there you need another 75k, what the frick can that be in? Student loans? You shouldn't have more than 50k+ in loans unless you're a doctor or making a similar income.


Also aren't millennials as a generation due for a massive wealth transfer when the baby boomers die off? how much do you want to bet most of them will waste all that money and be poor again.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Even a credit card will max you out at like 25k tops


You do know not everyone has the same credit line right?
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