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re: 2017’s Safest Cities in America

Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:15 pm to
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White and Asian. Better? That accounts for over 75% of the population.


That’s great and all but 75% isn’t a high % or anything and Seattle is also like 10% black. Unless an area is around 90% white it’s not gonna be near the top of any safest city list.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41007 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Guessed 99

AND IT IS AT 164....Austin 1t 149 makes no sense at all.


I believe this was posted a couple days ago.

"Financial safety" was a parameter so the whole list is suspect and not reflecting what a normal person thinks "safety" means.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Unless an area is around 90% white it’s not gonna be near the top of any safest city list.

Nevermind
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6043 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:20 pm to
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According to google the violent crime rate


Where did I write crime "rate"? Seattle has approx 4100+ violent crimes per year.....NOLA at 3700. Seattle is far from a safe haven.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:22 pm to
For large cities outside of the upper midwest it's pretty high.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Seattle has more violent crime than NOLA.




I've lived in both cities. They're not even comparable in terms of safety.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:25 pm to
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Where did I write crime "rate"? Seattle has approx 4100+ violent crimes per year.....NOLA at 3700. Seattle is far from a safe haven.

No shite. Seattle has almost double the population. Crime rate is what's important unless you think NYC is more dangerous than NOLA.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3875 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:26 pm to
Arlington isn't an incorporated city. That might have discounted it.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6043 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:31 pm to
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I've lived in both cities. They're not even comparable in terms of safety.


I don't give a damn where you lived. Prove me wrong. Seattle has 4100 violent crimes per year...NOLA at 3700. These are facts. Seattle is obviously a larger city but violent crime is very much alive and well in Seattle.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:31 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:32 pm to
No one has even argued that violent crime doesn't exist in Seattle.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

quote:
26 Laredo, TX

List is bullshite


The list is bullshite because crime statistics outside of homicides vary greatly in accuracy depending on how the public reports them and the police responds to them. One statistic that is hard to skew is homicides.. and Laredo does have a low homicide rate.

Obviously you can't go by this list when it says some cities like NOLA are comparable to Seattle. I've lived in both and there's really no comparison.

I've heard that Laredo, El Paso , and Fresno CA are all surprisingly safe considering how much poverty and such exists. Property crime on the other hand may be a completely different story.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:35 pm to
Yonkers New York is #15??

Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:37 pm to


This is one of the more ridiculous positions I've seen anyone try to argue here recently. Seattle has almost double the population of New Orleans in the actual city, more than triple if you go by metro area. Downtown Seattle is relatively safe other than property crime - there are no gangs, etc. New Orleans is far from safe, has some of the worst gangs in the country, etc.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:38 pm to
Everyone knows a lot of Nola crime is unreported. And everyone knows Seattle is safer than Nola. I can’t believe you’re even arguing this.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82474 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:40 pm to
Gulfport seems too low in that ranking.

I'm not even afraid to drive down MLK in Gulfport.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

This is one of the more ridiculous positions I've seen anyone try to argue here recently. Seattle has almost double the population of New Orleans in the actual city, more than triple if you go by metro area. Downtown Seattle is relatively safe other than property crime - there are no gangs, etc. New Orleans is far from safe, has some of the worst gangs in the country, etc.


To add to that and what another poster pointed out, it's hard to compare crime rates because of differences in reporting but you can compare murder rates. In 2016, Seattle, with a population of 700,000, had 23 murders. NOLA, with a population under 400,000, had 175.

That is a massive difference.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:14 pm to
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To add to that and what another poster pointed out, it's hard to compare crime rates because of differences in reporting but you can compare murder rates. In 2016, Seattle, with a population of 700,000, had 23 murders. NOLA, with a population under 400,000, had 175.



Its huge! Scottsdale has 250,000 people and while we did have 4 murders last year we also have years where we have 1 murder. Typically the murders here are domestic violence issues, I assume a lot of Seattles fall into that category, and those are a lot different than the murders in New Orleans.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:23 pm to
Yeah, anecdotal, but just from watching the news, at least half of them are domestic in nature. Drive-bys, gang murders, and random violence are relatively rare.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67020 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:04 pm to
WTF is "natural disaster risk"?

Greensboro, NC ranks 31 in this, whereas Winston - Salem ,NC ranks 84 in this category.
they are 20 miles apart.
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5236 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Who gives a shite about 2 & 3?

Just what I was thinking. 1 is the only one that matters.
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