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Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:49 pm to
I thought 9-11 was traumatizing. Then Katrina hit. I understand where she's coming from.

Got any pics?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:46 pm to
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4. Katrina (2005) - 60 miles to the west and BR would have been destroyed by strong Cat 3 wind gusts



Wrong...BR is too far inland for a storm that weakened rather quick once it hit land. Plus cat 3 winds would NOT have destroyed BR..... and would have been a cat 2 at best by the time it got to BR...


Katrina was a monster storm, but the bulk of DAMAGE in New Orleans was caused more from the levees breaking than anything else,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by goatman1419
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:49 pm to
A buddy of mine collects data for a living. He told me about one study they did on Hurricanes. The two most purchased items were strawberry pop tarts and bud light.......hahahahaha.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:50 pm to
PJ;dr
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:56 pm to
No mention of Rita storm surge?
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:58 pm to
I don't see alcohol or Valium as needed items
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:46 pm to
Pj, I'm convinced you believe the bullshite you type
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:57 pm to
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Pj, I'm convinced you believe the bullshite you type




Sorry. My post was spot on..............
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:47 am to
Do you not remember the destruction in the parishes to the east of EBR and Livingston?
Posted by tigerbutt
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:10 am to
UDIPSHIT
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:31 am to
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Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:39 am to
Fred sounds like a bad name for a hurricane.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:53 am to
Jesus...

This was posted early.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:54 am to
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and would have been a cat 2 at best by the time it got to BR..


oh so it would have been worse than Gustav...great...

Gustav in BR sucked...I was out of power for almost two weeks.
Posted by nolanola
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:56 am to
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Fred sounds like a bad name for a hurricane.



Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:43 pm to
The Atlantic hurricane season runs from June through November. However, the atmosphere doesn't always conform to that. Occasionally a storm develops early, and that could happen off the Southeast coast next week.

(MORE: Hurricane Season Outlook | Hurricane Central)

The Setup
The potential setup for this begins with a leftover, fading frontal boundary over the southwest Atlantic, the Bahamas and Cuba. This is the same frontal boundary that brought a much-needed soaking to South Florida earlier this week and gave Key West its third-heaviest April day of rain on record Wednesday.

This old frontal boundary will be revived by an infusion of energy from the southern, or subtropcial, branch of the jet stream. This will cause an area of low pressure to form near the northwest Bahamas or off Florida's East Coast on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Because water temperatures are generally running above average in the Bahamas and over the Gulf Stream now, according to senior meteorologist Stu Ostro, this would help fuel thunderstorms near the low's circulation, though he emphasizes that whether the system becomes a subtropical cyclone will ultimately depend more on what's going on in the atmosphere.

This area of disturbed weather is then expected to be drawn to the north or northeast through mid-late next week.

Tropical or Not?
This low may not be a typical low-pressure system with fronts you may see over, say, the Plains states. It may also not be a tropical depression or storm like you see in the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans in summer. It may be a combination of those, called a subtropical cyclone.

Our friends at Weather Underground have a full explanation of subtropical cyclones. Basically, a subtropical depression or storm exhibits features of both tropical and non-tropical systems, with a broad wind field, no cold or warm fronts, and generally low-topped thunderstorms spaced some distance from the center.

Subtropical cyclones typically are associated with upper-level lows and have colder temperatures aloft, whereas tropical cyclones are fully warm-core, and upper-level high pressure systems overhead help facilitate their intensification.

Because of this hybrid nature, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) still issues advisories and forecasts (i.e. projected path) for subtropical depressions and storms and assigns a number or name much like a regular tropical depression or tropical storm.

On rare occasions, if thunderstorms cluster close enough and persist near the center, latent heat given off aloft from the thunderstorms can warm the air enough to make the storm a fully tropical storm.

What Does This Mean Next Week?
The bottom line is that by mid to late next week, that low near the Bahamas or Southeast coast may sprout enough convection near its circulation to be called a subtropical depression or storm.

If that occurs, the NHC would issue forecast advisories. The first name of the 2015 Atlantic hurricane season is Ana.

Where this low tracks remains highly uncertain this far out.

Unless it remains well offshore and weak, a system like this can produce high surf, rip currents, even some coastal flooding or beach erosion. If it tracks close enough to the Southeast coast, areas of locally heavy rain are possible in those areas.

At this point, the chance of this system becoming a fully tropical system appears to be low, but not zero.

So this isn't something to be overly worried about just yet. We'll continue to monitor the forecast over the next several days, so check back with us at weather.com and The Weather Channel for the latest.

It's Happened Recently
Some recent Atlantic hurricane seasons have jumped the June 1 starting gun.

(MORE: When Hurricane Season Starts Early)

Most recently, in May 2012, a pair of tropical storms, Alberto and Beryl, both formed off the coast of the Carolinas, Georgia and north Florida.

Beryl washed out the Memorial Day weekend, and was the strongest tropical cyclone to make a U.S. landfall before June 1 on record, with 70 mph maximum sustained winds.

Five years earlier, a cut-off low-pressure system off the Southeast coast morphed into Subtropical Storm Andrea. Before officially gaining the subtropical designation, the wrapped-up low was responsible for a 2-3 foot storm surge in St. Johns and Flagler Counties in Florida. A surfer and four crew members of a sailing vessel lost their lives in high surf from Andrea.

There was even an Atlantic tropical storm in late April 2003, ironically also named Ana.

In all, there have been 18 named Atlantic tropical storms, subtropical storms or hurricanes before June 1 since 1950, occurring in 16 different years. Eight of those made a U.S. landfall.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:52 pm to
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On rare occasions, if thunderstorms cluster close enough and persist near the center, latent heat given off aloft from the thunderstorms can warm the air enough to make the storm a fully tropical storm.


The models that were going to town with this system really struggle with convection and thus latent heat release. It looks like there will be an area of disturbed weather but upper level conditions don't look overly favorable for getting a named system out of this. Certainly something interesting to watch and a fascinating way for a system to form but I doubt much comes of it. Here is an article that gets into the process.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:55 pm to
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SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 745 PM EDT THU MAY 7 2015 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico: Observations from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the area of low pressure located about 180 miles south-southeast of the South Carolina-North Carolina border continues to produce 40-45 mph winds mainly to the north and west of the center. Satellite images show some increase in the associated thunderstorm activity and if this trend continues, the system would become a subtropical cyclone later tonight. The low is expected to drift toward the north or north-northwest over the next couple of days, and interests along the southeastern coast of the United States should continue to monitor the progress of this system. Regardless of development, heavy rain is expected over portions of the coastal southeastern United States for the next few days. For additional information, see products from your local National Weather Service forecast office and High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service. The next Special Tropical Weather Outlook on this system is scheduled for 2 AM EDT on Friday. * Formation chance through 48 hours...high...90 percent * Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent && High Seas Forecasts issued by the National Weather Service are available under AWIPS header NFDHSFAT1, WMO header FZNT01 KWBC, and on the Web at www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/NFDHSFAT1.shtml $$ Forecaster Pasch
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:36 pm to
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Storm Names Anna Bill Claudette Danny Erika Fred


Fred will be a monster.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:40 pm to
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