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re: 2012 won $5K a week for life, now he's losing everything including his home

Posted on 9/7/25 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5978 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 2:00 pm to
This is simple case of idiot not being able to see 5 feet in front of him.

Sorry not sorry.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17887 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 2:05 pm to
I went through a corporate BK. Day 1 motions include letting EVERYONE you may owe money to know of the proceedings. It is court ordered.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10465 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 2:10 pm to
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2012 won $5K a week for life, now he's losing everything including his home


2012 is a person?
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8736 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 3:38 pm to
He got over 3 million in those 12 years of payments so he obviously made horrible financial decisions.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6260 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 6:30 pm to
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his income stream was already assured


was it?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13129 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 6:33 pm to
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was it?


Until it wasn't.

Seriously, I don't get the hate the guy is catching. He didn't do what a lot of winners of shite does- he didn't blow it or terribly misuse it. He DID take it for granted, and he's paid dearly for it.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3176 posts
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Sucks, but how on earth do you get $260k per year for 13 years and you still owe on your house?


My house is at 2.5% - even HYSA’s are still a higher return. I could make $500k per year and I’m investing it and not paying the house off.

But the math still doesn’t make sense for this guy. Even if he chucked “only” 60k every year into some sort of investment he should be fine for a few years.

Even at 5% return he’d be able to last 6 years without a lifestyle change after 12 years of receiving payment (pulling ~200k/year).

Cutting the pulldown to $40k or so annually would have him set for life, especially if he did something as simple as man the cash register at Home Depot for a few years until Social Security kicks in.

If his house is so expensive that this isn’t possible, then by now there should be quite some equity in the house to enable downsizing.

Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15014 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:13 am to
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That’s a falacy find me a guaranteed way to do that I’ll dump $500k tomorrow into that account.


QQQ
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30229 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:23 am to
It's just crazy that PCH is still a thing.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
21774 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:22 am to
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Jet Skis and trailers are not sound investments



i'm in trouble
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
1679 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:26 am to
Nobody buys printed magazines anymore. PCH didn't move quick enough into selling subscriptions to online content, and diversifying their business model.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52731 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:45 am to
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always assumed PCH had some annuity set up that provided the yearly payments for this. So either they were just funding yearly checks or else they were using trusts / annuity but they raided them. Interesting.


Ponzi scheme?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:51 am to
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can’t find a job now


Yes, he can. It just does not pay enough, he does not like it, the job is not easy enough, not enough vacation, etc etc.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66349 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:24 am to
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I thought almost everyone says to to take the lump sum for this exact reason (lottery jackpots, any sweepstakes prizes from companies, etc.)

Always, always, always take the lump sum. The annuity wouldn’t be offered by the bank if they weren’t making money off it too.

The rule of 72 clearly shows how much you lose. For the purpose of this discussion, I’ll leave taxes out.

Using round numbers, let’s say the powerball Saturday was $2B and the cash offer was $900m. With a 20 year annuity, you’d receive a total of $2B over 20 years.

The long term nominal return of a S&P 500 index fund is 10%. Let’s say you keep $50m as frick around money and invest the other $850m in an index fund. In 7.2 years you would have $1.7B. In 14.4 years you’d have $3.4B, and in 20 years you’d have $6.04B.

So by taking the annuity, you’d lose out on $4.04B
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 9:26 am
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