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re: 20 year old sex abuse victim in Holland euthanized

Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:15 pm to
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She wasn't otherwise healthy. quote:Her condition included severe anorexia, chronic depression and suicidal mood swings, tendencies to self-harm, hallucinations, obsessions and compulsions. She also had physical difficulties and was almost entirely bedridden.


Better off dead then, amiright? They're no good to themselves and a burden on everyone else. Killing them is the merciful thing to do and society should help them on their way, right?

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:16 pm to
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Better off dead then, amiright? They're no good to themselves and a burden on everyone else. Killing them is the merciful thing to do and society should help them on their way, right?


If that's the patient's wish... then yes.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59322 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:17 pm to
I'm just saying she wasn't some young girl who had a sad day and decided she didn't want to live anymore. I wouldn't want to live with 15 years of the conditions they listed she had.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:18 pm to
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If that's the patient's wish... then yes.


If someone wants to die, it should be their decision and their act alone. The power to decide or influence who lives and dies should not be held by anyone one else.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Except her family that has to mourn her senseless death.




Would you prefer she stayed in her miserable existence so as not to upset her family?
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
12434 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:19 pm to
What shitty doctors these are. At 20 years old, you aren't fully psychologically mature yet.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:19 pm to
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If someone wants to die, it should be their decision alone. The power to decide or even influence who lives and dies should not be held by anyone one else.


It was her decision alone.

Did you even bother reading the article you posted? The doctors didn't choose death for her. She chose it, they consented after 15 YEARS of unsuccessful treatment.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15403 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:20 pm to
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quote:
She's not bothering anyone.


Except her family that has to mourn her senseless death.


Well considering it was most likely someone in her family who committed or at least enabled the abuse, who cares what they think.

The girl was sexually abused between the ages of 5-15, what a horrible tragedy.
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:20 pm to
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Better off dead then, amiright? They're no good to themselves and a burden on everyone else. Killing them is the merciful thing to do and society should not give a shite, right?


Fixed it for you, and, I know you're trying to be sarcastic but what you wrote is exactly how it should be.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:21 pm to
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Only a matter of time before progressives start pushing it here.


They can already kill the living baby inside them, surprised they cant do this also
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:22 pm to
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If someone wants to die, it should be their decision and their act alone. The power to decide or influence who lives and dies should not be held by anyone one else.


all well and good, but if they try suicide and frick it up, they're (likely) worse off then before. Why not give them the assistance to end life peacefully and effectively?
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:23 pm to
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What shitty doctors these are. At 20 years old, you aren't fully psychologically mature yet.

You wouldn't know because you aren't fully psychologically mature yet as shown by your post.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:24 pm to
Should be a 2 for 1 deal and go ahead and euthanize the sick frick that abused her
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:24 pm to
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They can already kill the living baby inside them, surprised they cant do this also


It is already legal in several states.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32372 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:26 pm to
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It makes sense. Maybe not to you, but to her. And it was her life. Not yours.


Okay, so suicidal people who blew their own face off with a 12 gauge shotgun were thinking straight? Has nothing to do with clinical depression caused chemical imbalances in the brain or other things that may be wrong....

Got it.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151553 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Except her family that has to mourn her senseless death.

this all goes back to the whole "selfish" arguments..... I always say it's "selfish" for the loved ones to want someone to stick around miserable for their own selfish reasons of not wanting to miss them or mourn their death.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:27 pm to
the end of the road would've come for this poor soul one way or another. It's a really really tough situation. I don't like assisted suicides, but I always think back to, How is that different from putting a pet down?

Who gets the final say and why? It's a question without an answer.
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Okay, so suicidal people who blew their own face off with a 12 gauge shotgun were thinking straight


What's so bad about suicide? It's not the end of the world, and if it is, who cares? There's nothing you can do about it anyway. Get outta people's fricking business.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32372 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Good point, but the fact remains that there is free will in this world. And if someone chooses to do something that harms no one but themselves, we as a society should let them be.


Protest seat belt laws then.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:30 pm to
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all well and good, but if they try suicide and frick it up, they're (likely) worse off then before. Why not give them the assistance to end life peacefully and effectively?


I know from an emotional standpoint that sound good. But the idea of allowing doctors to decide someone should die, especially a mentally ill person, is a terrible mistake.

In some areas the term "slippery slope" does not apply. But in this area, it sure as hell does. The dangers of what an euthanasia program like this can morph into has been proven by history.
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