re: 20 year old sex abuse victim in Holland euthanized

Once The State is in charge of all of our health, both mental and physical, it makes perfect sense that The State would euthanize severe cases of mental and or physical illness when cure of such conditions is hopeless or when cure expenses are deemed too high by The State.

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Once The State is in charge of all of our health, both mental and physical, it makes perfect sense that The State would euthanize severe cases of mental and or physical illness when cure of such conditions is hopeless or when cure expenses are deemed too high by The State.

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Of course. Unless the sick person belongs to the elite, protected political class or is a crony of the same.

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Once The State is in charge of all of our health, both mental and physical, it makes perfect sense that The State would euthanize severe cases of mental and or physical illness when cure of such conditions is hopeless or when cure expenses are deemed too high by The State

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Bingo. And the scary part is it seems from the posts in here, many in our own country are perfectly fine with this.

Bet they'll change their mind in about 40 or so years when it them that's not considered a "burden" on society.

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Of course. Unless the sick person belongs to the elite, protected political class or is a crony of the same.

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Absolutely. It's beyond comprehension that you would feel the need to mention this obvious fact. The Masses are even now being conditioned to accept as Fact that the Ruling Class is not subject to the same rules. Best example: Hillary Clinton -- is she being treated like any other US citizen that placed Top Secret national security data on a commercial civilian network server? No. In fact, seems to me that the people who want to vote for her already are good with the notion that Hillary is not subject the Rule of Law.

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Only a matter of time before progressives start pushing it here.

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I'm 1000% behind it and think it should already be an option here.

The suddenness of a suicide destroys the family left behind. If there were mental health facilities and professionals available to guide a suicidal person through the phases of depression this country would be a much better place. Imagine instead of the stigma and ridicule that are commonplace, a person could get some help, get some answers to questions or situations that seem hopeless the drug problem in our country would be lessened greatly. Self medication by alcohol and narcotics would decrease and people would generally be happier or be on the way the being happy.

The sadness I've seen for years hovering over the families of my friends that have committed suicide doesn't appear to be going away. I can't help but think If there was some way for my friends to have truly communicated what they felt deep inside rather than keep up a happy-go-lucky always having fun facade they'd 1) have gotten some help 2) given their families understanding that they could be at peace with 3) gone through some counseling that might have them alive today 4) given them an outlet to express their feelings and not have bottled it up inside to where it got to the point of hopelessness to where shooting themselves seemed like the best answer.


Some people go through things that haunt them for their lives, I can't understand their emotions but I can have empathy for them not wanting live through it any longer. If we're going to live free, then a part of that is having a choice on how to end our lives. Taking control of the end is often the only thing a person has control of. That adds to the allure of ending your own life I believe.

I support the same for terminally ill patients too. If there's zero quality of life, it's more humane to allow someone to say enough is enough.

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Bet they'll change their mind in about 40 or so years when it them that's not considered a "burden" on society.

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My guess is that, once The State is responsible for paying for everybody's health care, The State will announce that at age 70, a person's access to healthcare will not be the same as for a person of age 20. At some point, The State will deem it better to require the 70 year old patient to "take a pill" rather than subject The State to costly heroic efforts that are beyond the State's obligation to provide reasonable health care to its Subjects.

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My guess is that, once The State is responsible for paying for everybody's health care, The State will announce that at age 70, a person's access to healthcare will not be the same as for a person of age 20. At some point, The State will deem it better to require the 70 year old patient to "take a pill" rather than subject The State to costly heroic efforts that are beyond the State's obligation to provide reasonable health care to its Subjects.

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It's the logical evolution of such decisions.

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It's the logical evolution of such decisions.

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Totally logical to expect The State to provide REASONABLE health care to the masses, not Heroic efforts and not overly expensive efforts.

The State will decide what's Reasonable, or perhaps it will be put to an agency committee to decide what is Reasonable Health care efforts.

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I support the same for terminally ill patients too. If there's zero quality of life, it's more humane to allow someone to say enough is enough.

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Terminally ill patients are an entirely different argument.

When someone wants to commit suicide becuase they are clinically depressed, one would really have to question (given the nature of mental illness)weather that person is competent to make the decision.