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re: 20-25 million dollars to fix Washington street exit

Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by link
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:26 pm to
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you know exactly why.
neither of you know why
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:26 pm to
I have a feeling that my post there went over your head.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:28 pm to
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neither of you know why


enlighten us
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:28 pm to
Five to seven years. Just incredible.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:31 pm to
2 lanes come on from I-10, and 2 more come on from I-110. that's 4. immediately after the washington street exit, there are 3 lanes because the rightmost lane dropped with the exit. that is the issue. a lane is missing because it drops with the exit.

the fix is to extend the dropped lane (rightmost lane) and keep the 2 lanes from I-10 continuing with no merging needed.

if you close the exit, you still only have 3 lanes after the exit, and you still have to merge. again, just closing the exit does nothing.

in conclusion, that is why you don't just "close the exit and use that lane."
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:33 pm to
Is there any other place in the country that interstate traffic is funneled down to one lane by design?
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:34 pm to

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:35 pm to
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in conclusion, that is why you don't just "close the exit and use that lane."
There's a deeper reason that the exit can't be closed, though, and I think that's what they're getting at. Even if the lane didn't end.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:35 pm to
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Is there any other place in the country that interstate traffic is funneled down to one lane by design?


I-10 also goes to one lane in San Antonio in both directions.

But... they have a loop. Or 1.5 loops, something like that... not sure if the outer one is complete.
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
10215 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:36 pm to
I use that exit when I'm going to football games.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36143 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
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what lane?

remind yourself what this interchange looks like on google earth, and then think about what you're saying. there is no lane. it drops off.

2 lanes come on from I-10, and 2 more come on from I-110. that's 4. immediately after the washington street exit, there are 3 lanes because the rightmost lane dropped with the exit. that is the issue. a lane is missing because it drops with the exit.

the fix is to extend the dropped lane (rightmost lane) and keep the 2 lanes from I-10 continuing with no merging needed.

if you close the exit, you still only have 3 lanes after the exit, and you still have to merge. again, just closing the exit does nothing.


Absolutely agree. The bigger question is why waste limited funds to build another exit to Washington St. The costs FAR exceed any benefit of doing so. That's a relatively small and commercially unimportant part of the city. Sorry if that is "racist", but it's true. Plus, that area can be accessed by two other exits (Highland and Dalrymple)
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Is there any other place in the country that interstate traffic is funneled down to one lane by design?

I-74 in Indianapolis as it leaves I-465 eastward maybe?
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:41 pm to
i certainly understand the "disenfranchisement of an impoverished neighborhood" and all that shite. but neither part of the OP's 2-step solution makes sense. you don't NEED to close the exit because it isn't causing the problem, and there is no "lane" there to use. you'd still have to merge, and there would still be a bottleneck. it's bizarro world in here.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:44 pm to
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I-10 also goes to one lane in San Antonio in both directions.



I-40 in Memphis does as well I think.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Their biggest advantage is people actually want to get up off their asses and go to work and do shite...which in most parts of the state is entirely different from Louisiana.
FIFY

Texas looks at problems as something to be solved not something to make their in-laws and baws money.


dont think one second Txdot isnt helping out thair cowbaws
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:46 pm to
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but neither part of the OP's 2-step solution makes sense. you don't NEED to close the exit because it isn't causing the problem


You must not come into Baton Rouge from the west side frequently.

There are a lot of things causing the problem....only one of them slowing cars crossing I-10 lanes to get from I-110 south to the Washington exit. If it must exist, it should be a left hand exit.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:46 pm to
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you don't NEED to close the exit because it isn't causing the problem
It kind of is.
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and there is no "lane" there to use.
There kind of is.
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you'd still have to merge, and there would still be a bottleneck.
You would still have to merge, but there would be double the length of highway available to merge from.


Is it a real fix? No. But it would be cheap and fast, and would alleviate some pressure for the next 5-7 years.
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:48 pm to
Typical Louisiana government.

I wonder how the Baton Rouge loop study is going......
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:50 pm to
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2 lanes come on from I-10, and 2 more come on from I-110


I have debated this for years...they extended the merge point years ago but it still isn't really a lane since the right lane must merge.

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just closing the exit does nothing.


not all together true. I have seen some crazy shite with cars trying to exit there

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the fix is to extend the dropped lane (rightmost lane)


I agree 100%

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in conclusion, that is why you don't just "close the exit and use that lane."


I think most advocates of closing the exit also want the lane extended to 10/12 split
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:51 pm to
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i certainly understand the "disenfranchisement of an impoverished neighborhood" and all that shite. but neither part of the OP's 2-step solution makes sense. you don't NEED to close the exit because it isn't causing the problem, and there is no "lane" there to use. you'd still have to merge, and there would still be a bottleneck. it's bizarro world in here.
The problem is lane balance, which is what you explained.
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