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Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:35 am to SmackDaniels
Did the guy make it to work? Just wondering, since his main complaint after being pulled over was that he'd be late for work.
Chris Rock's "How Not To Get Your arse Kicked By The Police" and Chappelle's "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" both come to mind when I watch that video.
Dumbass did not need to be shot, but he escalated the situation.
Chris Rock's "How Not To Get Your arse Kicked By The Police" and Chappelle's "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong" both come to mind when I watch that video.
Dumbass did not need to be shot, but he escalated the situation.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:36 am to jbgleason
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Taser never should have shaped the weapon like a gun and I can't fathom why it has a trigger. Put a button or switch to activate it. It's electric, it doesn't need a trigger.
There’s no other options though...how should it be shaped to hold with a hand and aim?
I’m also soooo tired of this ‘need more training’ BS. These are all incredibly high stress life or death situations. No matter the training, shite is going to go wrong on occasion. Not everyone is going to be a 10 years of special forces training type of person when you have 690,000 police officers in the USA.
Guess what perps, don’t resist and you won’t get shot. If you resist, you may run into a cop that’s not going to handle the situation properly. That’s called, life in a high stress environment and there’s no perfect solution and never will be.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 7:38 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:40 am to SmackDaniels
To be fair. This one shouldn’t have pulled a taser in the first place. She should have shot his arse initially.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:41 am to Oilfieldbiology
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posed no threat to her life
If a person grabs a cop by the waist, like he did when he threw the cop to the ground, I'm going to say it's OK to pull your gun. No reason for a person to be putting his hands near a policeman's waist.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 7:43 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:42 am to WhuckFistle
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My dad always told me if I ever got in trouble with the law, to just go along with it and have my day in court and fight it then.
My personal problem with that is that
1.) That's not how it is suppose to work. As an American citizen, I am suppose to be entitled to certain rights. The police cannot ignore just because they want to. I'm not talking about this particular incident, but in general.
2.) Too many people have just gone along with it and have it cost them dearly. I am thinking of a case where a husband and wife were pulled over. They see some dried up cotton candy from the fair the day before. The cops test it, it test positive for meth. The couple went along with it, thinking it would be quickly figured out. They spent months in jail waiting for them to retest it and eventually fixed.
These people were ripped away from the life, jobs, and kids because of a faulty test and a dumbass cop.
What about the college football player that had bird poop test positive for cocaine. His name was blasted all over media, he was suspended, missed a game, and arrested.
When the police are in the wrong, but too proud to back off or fix it, it ends up costing regular people a ton. Time, money, effort, and reputation. Mean while the same cops get to go lay in their beds at night consequence free.
I know cops have a hard job, but I think it's only fair that people are starting to hold them to a higher standard. I cannot think of another job where people could mess up or ruin peoples lives like they do, and people would just shake it off.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:42 am to SmackDaniels
I believe statistics show this happens more with female officers but I may be wrong.
I also don’t believe it’s a training issue. Police in general are trained well, the problem is the panic and reaction which you can’t train for.
I’ve said it 1000 times but unfortunately with police, like the military, you don’t know who is going to shite the bed in an intense situation and who will do their job until it’s too late.
I also don’t believe it’s a training issue. Police in general are trained well, the problem is the panic and reaction which you can’t train for.
I’ve said it 1000 times but unfortunately with police, like the military, you don’t know who is going to shite the bed in an intense situation and who will do their job until it’s too late.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:44 am to baldona
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These are all incredibly high stress life or death situations
We could stop training cops to treat traffic stops as pretext for searching for guns and drugs. That might get rid of the feeling that every single dumbass traffic stop is an "incredibly high stress life or death situation." high stress when someone you've pulled over for something stupid is mad? Sure. Life or death because of that? That's stupid.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:44 am to jbgleason
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Taser never should have shaped the weapon like a gun and I can't fathom why it has a trigger. Put a button or switch to activate it. It's electric, it doesn't need a trigger.
Having held a State Police Department issued handgun and taser, they feel very different. Particularly in weight and feel of the grip.
I genuinely don’t know how you get them confused if you’re regularly handling them.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:46 am to Oilfieldbiology
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But was it though? She easily could have killed her partner and the guy posed no threat to her life. It was the absolute proper time for a taser though.
Absolutely was a good shoot, mistake or not. That guy slammed the cop into pavement and could have killed him had his head hit the pavement hard enough. A taser isn’t always effective either. She did the right thing, if she waited any longer the other cop could have sustained serious damage with that guy on top of him.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:48 am to Jay Are
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We could stop training cops to treat traffic stops as pretext for searching for guns and drugs
So you didn’t watch the video?
Cops have been shot simply walking up to the vehicle without having the chance to say a word.
Say what you want, but any encounter an officer has could be life or death. Thinking otherwise is pure ignorance.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:52 am to SmackDaniels
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Police stopped 35-year-old Akira Lewis for a suspected seatbelt violation. Lewis was uncooperative, profane, threatening throughout the several minutes the officer talked to him. He refused to give his name and any form of identification. The officer repeatedly pleaded with Lewis to cooperate or face arrest. After another officer arrived the original officer attempted to arrest Lewis but the man slammed the officer into the pavement and began hitting him. The second officer pulled her gun out, yelled Taser three time but pulled the trigger of her service weapon striking the man in the back. The officer resigned and was charged with aggravated battery. Lewis was charged with several counts including resisting and assault on an officer.
Yeah, he would have just been on his way if he would have given his fricking name for the ticket.
As I argued with Wannabebadass808 yesterday, traffic stops have a multitude of benefits and relatively a very small number of bad outcomes. These are, of course, amplified by the media and dumbasses like yourself. One benefit is that it keeps the roads relatively safe because nobody wants to be pulled over. The more important benefit is that they lead to numerous crimes getting solved in a multitude of ways. Valuable information as to who is driving what (for instance vehicle used in an armed robbery), evidence, wanted persons, missing persons, dead persons, drugs, stolen property, stolen guns, stolen vehicles have all been be found on "routine" traffic stops. I'm glad cops find thugs and criminals during these stops and take action.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:52 am to SmackDaniels
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:54 am to Jay Are
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We could stop training cops to treat traffic stops as pretext for searching for guns and drugs. That might get rid of the feeling that every single dumbass traffic stop is an "incredibly high stress life or death situation." high stress when someone you've pulled over for something stupid is mad? Sure. Life or death because of that? That's stupid.
Do you realize how many cops are shot and/or killed for just pulling up on a crash or disabled vehicle and trying to help?
It’s not the police escalating the situation in 99.9% of the encounters, it’s the public.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:54 am to SmackDaniels
Maybe she knew?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:56 am to baldona
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There’s no other options though...how should it be shaped to hold with a hand and aim?
I’m also soooo tired of this ‘need more training’ BS. These are all incredibly high stress life or death situations. No matter the training, shite is going to go wrong on occasion. Not everyone is going to be a 10 years of special forces training type of person when you have 690,000 police officers in the USA.
Guess what perps, don’t resist and you won’t get shot. If you resist, you may run into a cop that’s not going to handle the situation properly. That’s called, life in a high stress environment and there’s no perfect solution and never will be.
Exactly, these fools online who have no idea about the amount of contact training automatically bitch about the training when they can't use race as a crutch. Cops are already taken off the streets an incredible amount of time between mandatory training, court, and meetings. But these fools would never understand that. And instead of blaming the non-compliant wanted criminal thug, they blame the cop or training. fricking low lifes.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:03 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:00 am to Jay Are
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We could stop training cops to treat traffic stops as pretext for searching for guns and drugs. That might get rid of the feeling that every single dumbass traffic stop is an "incredibly high stress life or death situation." high stress when someone you've pulled over for something stupid is mad? Sure. Life or death because of that? That's stupid.
This is trained? Prove it.
How many traffic stops lead time searches? Link it.
I think you have an uneducated and biased opinion of what happens on most traffic stops. Very few cops are actually proactive on stops. When they are proactive though, a multitute of good things can happen like finding wanted criminals, missing people, taking stolen guns off the street, and solving crimes. I bet you would be the first to bitch if it came out a cop pulled over someone on the way to commit or just after he commited a crime. "OMG, why didn't that dumbass cop DO SOMETHING
:wah:" 
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:01 am to SmackDaniels
The WHITE police officer will not get the benefit of the doubt.
That driver was a stupied fricker.
That driver was a stupied fricker.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:03 am to SmackDaniels
What happened to her? Charges?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:19 am to The Melt
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and dumbasses like yourself
What? I agree with you. Why are you directing this at me?
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