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re: 2 Officers shot in Ferguson...Video in OP

Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:44 pm to
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People like that lady need to step up and fix their community. I am willing to bet that Ferguson has become this way from generations of apathetic citizens that do not want to take action themselves. They want someone else to fix their problems, cops in this case, for them then bitch about the manner in which they do it.


That right there is significant assumptions based on pre-disposed thinking.

But yeah, sounds like you got this world figured out. Good for you.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:45 pm to
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These morons live by it, and still to this day, refuse to help the cops. They will watch their nephew/son get shot dead, and not say 1 word.



Cops live by the same credo.


Look at what happened to cops who went against the "Blue Line".

One in New York was committed by his superiors.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:46 pm to
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Cops live by the same credo.


Look at what happened to cops who went against the "Blue Line".

One in New York was committed by his superiors.



Get out of here with that nonsense logic!
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:52 pm to
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Where was all this gear when fully auto machine guns were allowed on the streets in the 60-80's?


LOL wut?
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:02 pm to
What am I assuming incorrectly? Are the citizens of Ferguson stepping up to solve the real issues and take a stand against the crime in their town?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:12 pm to
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And yet you (likely) vote exclusively for Democrats who want to limit your ability to own a firearm.



Nice. Way to stereotype. If you've followed my postings here for any amount of time, you'd know that I'm about as GOP as it gets.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:13 pm to
You're back... Ya!
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:21 pm to
Hey, what can I say? I had a 90 percent-plus chance of being right.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
40186 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:31 pm to
You mostly just seem stupid and violent.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Yes, I can. But what do you think caused all this. I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.

How many slaves do you know? When was the last time you were told that you weren't welcome in a restaurant because of your skin color?
Everything that was wrong with America 50-200 years ago has been corrected to the point where minorities have MORE opportunity to have a quality life than the majority. What more do you want?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:15 pm to
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Are the citizens of Ferguson stepping up to solve the real issues and take a stand against the crime in their town?


Not that I agree with the handsup don't shoot bull shite, and several other things that certain segments of the Ferguson population are doing... But, they are doing EXACTLY what you say you want them to do. In my opinion, it has been pretty well documented that from the police chief on down, there is a pretty prevalant group of racist cops in the town. Seems to me, there is a pretty vocal group standing up and trying to solve that issue.

Is that the thing you want them to improve? No... because quite honestly, you have no emotional attachment to their value system. They see the police department as a problem. They are wanting change. From your statements, you feel that isn't important. So, why don't you go ahead and tell them what they should feel is important?

It is very easy to make judgements on people that you have absolutely zero in common. The hard part of fostering better race relations is to want to grow that commonality. A large portion of both black and white populations are severely lacking in that category.

In my opinion -- during the 70's and 80's, there was a very strong movement of people wanting to learn more about each other. That feeling was a result of what happened in the 60's and early 70's. The late 90's and 2000's have brought about a more apathetic approach of trying to truly increase the things each race has in common. As a society, we started over using the buzz words with so many corporate diversity programs such as inclusion, acceptance, and diversity which gave everyone warm and fuzzies about all of us being "good people" because "even though my PawPaw used the N-word in public, I don't."

Well guess what those fabulous diversity programs did? They let us not worry about growing commonality as long as we know that people are different. As a result, race relations have actually lessened because we've entered a new era of all sides taking the attitude, "you worry about you. I'll worry about me." I'm sorry, but that does not make a healthy society. (no, I am not Democrat. I'm not advocating Obama cell phones and sharing the wealth. everyone needs to pull their own damn weight. I'm talking on a more holistic view of societal problems)

Right should be right. wrong should be wrong. I've been reading a lot of threads on this site the past few months. There seems to be a lot of people who think this is a "blacks in Ferguson" problem.

Guess what? I think what is happening in Ferguson could just as easily be happening in Shreveport, Minden, Monroe, Bastrop, Alexandria, Leesville, or damn near any other city in the state of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, or Illinois or at least 15 other states that I have spent significant time.

And before the "you have white guilt" crowd starts chiming in... get lost with that bullshite. I feel very confident and proud of who I am as a white man. I am not saying that all the problems with our society is because there are too many racists whites. All parties in this argument have responsibility for the current state of our race relations.

Honestly, I think things aren't nearly as bad as the media portrays. However, social media and entertainment journalism has skewed public perception to following whatever group's social agenda that has the largest twitter followers.

TL;DR. I don't care. I can think in complete sentences and type them quickly. I make no apologies if you can't read above a fifth grade level or have the attention span of a blown out flip flop.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:26 pm to
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has been corrected to the point where minorities have MORE opportunity to have a quality life than the majority.


I'm just going to leave this right here.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157758 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:31 pm to
The ones causing most of the issues have no desire to "fit in" in a manner that would lead to bettering their lives and the lives of their families.

1) education isn't valued
2) conforming isn't valued - it seems to be discouraged. What kind of good job can you get with gold teeth, tattoos everywhere (applies to whites too obviously).
3) family unit isn't valued - all the unwed mothers with several fathers and rarely are those fathers involved with raising their children - baby daddy culture
4) respect for authority is seen as a weakness - well, that a good way to get shot and a great way not to get promoted
5) violence is glorified
6) "snitching" to clean up their neighbors is vilified

These are all things that would improve any community but yet those things seem so far out of reach. All this change they want has to come from within first. Do you honestly think that's possible? I think it's too late.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 6:33 pm
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9483 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:34 pm to
The people of Ferguson have burned and looted their own fellow citizens' stores and property, defend that.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:36 pm to
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I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.


Dude. You just went full retard.

Today's race relation problems have nothing to do with Slavery.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:37 pm to
You want understanding of races from one another? What kind of horse shite is that. Understand this and we will get along just fine.

40 hour work week.
Pay your own way
put a condom on your dick
If you have a kid, provide for it
pay taxes like the rest of us


Pretty simple
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9483 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:37 pm to
AND QUIT BREAKING THE frickING LAW.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:43 pm to
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These are all things that would improve any community but yet those things seem so far out of reach. All this change they want has to come from within first. Do you honestly think that's possible? I think it's too late.


I agree totally.

That said, I don't agree that all blacks/African-Americans fit in that segment of the population. So to say, "fence it off and let 'em all die" is just wrong to me. I'm certainly not naive to the issues. But I am also not going to say, "it's not my problem". I want me kids to grow up in a healthy society.

I wish I had the answers to fix the problems. But I do think the first step is realizing that it isn't just "their problem".
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:47 pm to
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You want understanding of races from one another? What kind of horse shite is that.


That's actually a pretty common and human concept accepted in most places world wide.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:58 pm to
They picked the wrong case to make an example of. A cop shooting a low life POS is not going to get sympathy from most of the white community. In fact it probably has worsened race relations.

Why was the FPD racist? I hope it's not because an officer shot a guy attacking him.
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