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re: 2 Female Family Dogs Fighting-Need Advice

Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:22 pm to
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know. What sucks is all of the food drops have been accidental by the kids.


So now the man of the house is blaming the kids. Again DOGS SHOULDN'T BE AROUND the dinner table. They are pack animals and acting with instinct. Even in the wild a Alpha wolf would shut the infighting down asap. You're not a Alpha.


Especially not 2 dogs which are half GSD
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:23 pm to
As soon as the dog killed the cat, it should have been rehomed. It will snap again, and it may be your kid next.
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:25 pm to
Talk to vet about older dog
She may have something causing aggression
If not health related it may be her time, I would not suggest rehoming her

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:27 pm to
I'm curious about a few things:

- Do the dogs listen to you at all?
- Do you take them on walks together? Do you lead or do they drag you?
- Can you pull their food bowl away while they are eating without them growling / snapping at you?
- Have they ever been aggressive towards other people?
Posted by jerseyfla
Hudson, FL
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:28 pm to
Thanks for the advice! Lots of lessons learned, even with the insults.

While many assume either dog is going to attack my family. This is far from the truth, they both are loving and sweethearts around us. Neither one of them has growled at my kids. My young girl only barks at my son and jumps in on him when he is having a meltdown and then he calms down. Is this not good? Am I missing something?
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:34 pm to
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Thanks for the advice! Lots of lessons learned, even with the insults.

While many assume either dog is going to attack my family. This is far from the truth, they both are loving and sweethearts around us. Neither one of them has growled at my kids. My young girl only barks at my son and jumps in on him when he is having a meltdown and then he calms down. Is this not good? Am I missing something?



You’re delusional. This is either a really bad troll bad or you’re just fricking stupid.

Hopefully a neighbor calls animal control on your arse.
Posted by djangochained
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:35 pm to
Come play with my balls old man
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:35 pm to
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My young girl only barks at my son and jumps in on him when he is having a meltdown and then he calms down. Is this not good? Am I missing something?


Dogs are excellent at reading emotions and if your child responds in a positive way and calms down then that's excellent. If you start watching the dog she may actually give signs that your child is getting ready to have a outburst. You should encourage their relationship WITHOUT leaving the other dog out.
When either dog is eating from their bowl can you reach down and take the bowl away without any aggression

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Lots of lessons learned, even with the insults.

Most of the insults are due to those being flabbergasted that you're that naive about animals yet are a owner. The issues your having should have never gotten to this point if you knew how to raise dogs
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:35 pm to
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My young girl only barks at my son and jumps in on him when he is having a meltdown and then he calms down


Be careful with that, it can lead to snapping and nipping.

I had a big male GSD that was pretty territorial around other dogs - and one thing that always scared me was wild screaming running kids, he tried to herd them.

Similar situation in that he lived with an older dog and they started to go at each other when whose floor food it was was in dispute - they were pretty good at recognizing whose was whose but definitely got into it a few times (other dog being blind and kind of lashing out didn't help). Just had to be mindful.

- It seems like an easy solution would be to have a gate or something that separates dogs from people eating. This would obviously need to be a family wide effort.

- I would work on them with their behavior around food. When you give them both a bowl of food, make them wait to go eat it. Also reach in, pull the bowl away and switch bowls so they aren't as territorial. This will also help you reassert as dominant one.

Personally, I don't put much stock into the pin the dog on their back type shite. I think you can assert yourself with food, how you take them on walks and while playing without raising the level of tension and aggression that such physical type shite can bring about.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 7:37 pm
Posted by jerseyfla
Hudson, FL
Member since Mar 2012
554 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:37 pm to
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I'm curious about a few things:

- Do the dogs listen to you at all?
- Do you take them on walks together? Do you lead or do they drag you?
- Can you pull their food bowl away while they are eating without them growling / snapping at you?
- Have they ever been aggressive towards other people?


- My older dog listens mostly to me but she can be stubborn, my wife maybe half the time. She is also known to bolt out the front door and won't come back when called back in the house, she wonders back to the house after 5 minutes. Young girl always listens to any command my wife or I give her and if she leaves the garage or front door all I have to do is say "Wanna go for a ride?" and she's back in the house/car.

Walks- Old girl won't walk on leash, she thinks leash means car ride or trip to grandma's house. When we go past the car she falls to the ground and won't go further. Young girl loves walks but she pulls for the first 5 minutes until she realizes she isn't going far on the leash.

- Wife and I have pulled their food and they don't give us issues.

- Neither dog has been aggressive toward people, but my young one gets easily spooked if I walk in with the lights off at night, she has dropped her anal glands a couple of times.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:41 pm to
You never properly disciplined the older dog. She doesn't feel as she has to listen to you. You allowed her to play you with leash training. I hate to tell you but this is all due to your lack of training and discipline.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:42 pm to
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2 Female Family Dogs Fighting-Need Advice

Expected something totally different
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:42 pm to
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Neither dog has been aggressive toward people, but my young one gets easily spooked if I walk in with the lights off at night, she has dropped her anal glands a couple of times.


So in the future make sure you speak when entering a dark room where she is. Easy fix.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:45 pm to
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pioneerbasketball


If you really want to get rid of the issue have this poster do a prediction thread showing both dogs live until they are 30. They will be gone within the week
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:01 pm to
There is dog training for dogs who protect their food. There is a word for it...I forget what it is.

I wouldn't necessarily be worried about your dogs attacking your kids, but I would be worried about your kids trying to break them apart or grab the piece of food and then getting bit in a dog fight frenzy.

Sounds like one or both of your dogs get caught up in things and take them too far.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21850 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:28 pm to
Give both dogs away and then shop for a really chill dog and be a one dog family. One of them will bite the kid during a fight so nip it in the bud now.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:32 pm to
You asked, "Am I missing something?"

Great advice in this thread regarding the fact they haven't hurt your children...yet. The first time may be too late. Do you want your kid mauled? What about a friend's kid that the dog is not used to?

Here's the advice you've been given. Before your child or a friend has his face bit off, please consider...

Maybe I should get rid of her before she hurts my child

Should honestly have his animals removed from his home. They clearly aren’t safe.

It's just a matter of when not IF the child gets bit.

I wouldn’t have a dog that killed my cat around my kids. It’s one thing to kill a squirrel or some type of pest, but a long term house cat is very different. That dog could go off and attack your boy, especially if he gets near the fighting.

YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. You don't need a bunch of strangers to try and convince you it doesn't need to happen because responsible pet owners aren't going to tell you differently. I know it's hard to lose a pet especially one after a long time, but as a parent and husband you have one really major responsibility that far exceeds anything pet related. That's the safety of your Spouse and Kids.

As soon as the dog killed the cat, it should have been rehomed. It will snap again, and it may be your kid next.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:35 pm to
Ketamine. If your vet won't prescribe it find a dirty hippie he can hook you up and provide recommended dosage
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:04 pm to
Neither dog is obedience trained and based on the older dog's behavior in particular, that's an issue. Want to keep her? Send her to a professional trainer for a few months. Expensive yes, but at this stage it's beyond your skill set.

Never, ever let them eat people food or take scraps from the floor, one of the hardest habits to break once they acquire.

Two large breed females will fight far more often than two males or a female / male combo. Smaller breeds too but large breeds inflict more damage.

From what you'e described, the older dog is a ticking time bomb towards your boy. I wouldn't take that chance for a second.

Not a complex decision, it's either professionally train the older dog away from your home for a few months, or remove to another home who understands her history and is prepared to train her properly.

Your young one deserves that from you.

Good luck.

Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:19 pm to
The husky has been the aggressor. Huskies can be mean. Only dogs I have ever been bitten by were huskies and German Shepards. I grew up with a food aggressive husky. She would snap at humans and other dogs that came near her food. She was not one of the two huskies that bit me as a kid.

Seems the young girl had enough and decided she wasn’t gonna’ tolerate ol’ girl husky’s shite anymore. Probably when she watched the husky kill her friend the cat it was the tipping point. I have friends that have been in this situation and they had to keep the dogs separated indefinitely. Sorry. That sucks. I hope it can be resolved some other way than that. Maybe dog Valium for the husky? Something to calm her down and just have to not ever feed them near each other.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 10:43 pm
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