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2 Female Family Dogs Fighting-Need Advice
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:42 pm
Warning: Long Post. Need advice! This is an unfortunate situation that I wish my family did not have to go through.
To start we have an 11 y/o GSD/Husky mix Female that we have had for 9 years. She is great with people but not with other dogs outside the house and she would torment and chase our male house cat like he was a squirrel. We had a male Yellow Lab that was 6 years her senior who passed 3 years ago and she had mostly no issues with him, but he was a softie and would step back and allow her to take the bone or treat first.
We have a 3 y/o GSD/Lab mix Female that we have had since she was 2 months and right after the male Lab was put to sleep. She loves people (especially me) and plays with other dogs at the dog park. She also jumps up and helps my autistic son settle down when he has a meltdown. She would also try and play with our cat and lick him when he would be brave enough to walk around the house when old girl wasn’t around. For the first 2.5 years my girls got along. The older girl would growl at my younger girl to correct her or tell her to not take people food that dropped on the floor near her as she felt it was hers. The old girl established that she was head bitch in charge.
Back in January I get a frantic call at work from my wife that our 13 y/o cat was found dead in the living room and there were teeth marks on his neck. I come home and find some blood on my old girl’s teeth and my young girl panting in the corner of the kitchen. So we figured old girl chased and got the cat bad enough to maul and kill him. And young girl was frightened.
2 weeks later a piece of food fell off the kitchen table and when old girl growled and snapped at young girl, young girl this time snapped back and went at it fighting. I separated them right away, let young girl outside for 15 minutes and then they calmed down and got along again. 2 weeks after that, my son drops a piece of his sandwich accidentally, young girl was near it, old girl growls and barks to get away and then they went at it again only this time young girl got old girl in the back of her leg and locked on and I had to pry young girl off. Old girl had a big gash on the back of her leg that had to be stitched up. Young girl had a couple of minor cuts. They were separated for 1 month and didn’t see each other until we gradually got them to bond again. After that we have 1 dog in a room during meal time now.
This went well for 3 months but then Tuesday my oldest son calls me screaming “come home! Their fighting again!” Luckily I live 5 minutes from work. Found out my autistic son microwaved something for a snack and dropped it because it was hot. Old girl again growled and snapped at young girl and young girl was not having it and got old girl in the front leg and lower neck near her mouth. Young girl did have marks all over her face and on an ear. When I came home young girl had old girl held down and when I yelled get off she backed off and went outside.
Now here we are again and my wife, family, and I can not endure anymore fighting, separation, or expensive vet bills. We are afraid if we don’t rehome one of them, one of them will get killed. We think young girl has some PTSD from our cat getting mauled and will no longer let old girl who killed our cat push her around anymore and is snapping back in self defense. So we think old girl should go. Am I wrong for thinking this? I want to make the right decision.
TLDR: 2 Female family dogs fighting frequently after family cat gets killed by older dog. Thinking about rehoming the older grouchy bitch.
To start we have an 11 y/o GSD/Husky mix Female that we have had for 9 years. She is great with people but not with other dogs outside the house and she would torment and chase our male house cat like he was a squirrel. We had a male Yellow Lab that was 6 years her senior who passed 3 years ago and she had mostly no issues with him, but he was a softie and would step back and allow her to take the bone or treat first.
We have a 3 y/o GSD/Lab mix Female that we have had since she was 2 months and right after the male Lab was put to sleep. She loves people (especially me) and plays with other dogs at the dog park. She also jumps up and helps my autistic son settle down when he has a meltdown. She would also try and play with our cat and lick him when he would be brave enough to walk around the house when old girl wasn’t around. For the first 2.5 years my girls got along. The older girl would growl at my younger girl to correct her or tell her to not take people food that dropped on the floor near her as she felt it was hers. The old girl established that she was head bitch in charge.
Back in January I get a frantic call at work from my wife that our 13 y/o cat was found dead in the living room and there were teeth marks on his neck. I come home and find some blood on my old girl’s teeth and my young girl panting in the corner of the kitchen. So we figured old girl chased and got the cat bad enough to maul and kill him. And young girl was frightened.
2 weeks later a piece of food fell off the kitchen table and when old girl growled and snapped at young girl, young girl this time snapped back and went at it fighting. I separated them right away, let young girl outside for 15 minutes and then they calmed down and got along again. 2 weeks after that, my son drops a piece of his sandwich accidentally, young girl was near it, old girl growls and barks to get away and then they went at it again only this time young girl got old girl in the back of her leg and locked on and I had to pry young girl off. Old girl had a big gash on the back of her leg that had to be stitched up. Young girl had a couple of minor cuts. They were separated for 1 month and didn’t see each other until we gradually got them to bond again. After that we have 1 dog in a room during meal time now.
This went well for 3 months but then Tuesday my oldest son calls me screaming “come home! Their fighting again!” Luckily I live 5 minutes from work. Found out my autistic son microwaved something for a snack and dropped it because it was hot. Old girl again growled and snapped at young girl and young girl was not having it and got old girl in the front leg and lower neck near her mouth. Young girl did have marks all over her face and on an ear. When I came home young girl had old girl held down and when I yelled get off she backed off and went outside.
Now here we are again and my wife, family, and I can not endure anymore fighting, separation, or expensive vet bills. We are afraid if we don’t rehome one of them, one of them will get killed. We think young girl has some PTSD from our cat getting mauled and will no longer let old girl who killed our cat push her around anymore and is snapping back in self defense. So we think old girl should go. Am I wrong for thinking this? I want to make the right decision.
TLDR: 2 Female family dogs fighting frequently after family cat gets killed by older dog. Thinking about rehoming the older grouchy bitch.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:44 pm to jerseyfla
Have animal thunderdome. Only the strong survives, it’s the only choice at this point.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:45 pm to jerseyfla
You have dogs fighting around an Autistic kid?
Get rid of both dogs before they hurt someone
Get rid of both dogs before they hurt someone
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:46 pm to jerseyfla
Probably be easier to re home the young one.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:46 pm to jerseyfla
First your dogs shouldn't be around the dinner table and that would end that.Sounds like the younger dog is challenging the older to be head of the pack which means you, as Alpha, needs to stop it.
Knowing that the older killed the house cat inside if the house is a huge red sign as in " Maybe I should get rid of her before she hurts my child". Only a matter of time before they snap at the child when he has food in his hand.
You are feeding the dogs right?
Knowing that the older killed the house cat inside if the house is a huge red sign as in " Maybe I should get rid of her before she hurts my child". Only a matter of time before they snap at the child when he has food in his hand.
You are feeding the dogs right?
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:47 pm to Hogwarts
Seems like you need to quit letting food land on the floor around the dogs.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:48 pm to Hogwarts
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Have animal thunderdome. Only the strong survives, it’s the only choice at this point.
Ah yes, the Michael Vick Method of choosing the better dog.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:49 pm to SOSFAN
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First your dogs shouldn't be around the dinner table and that would end that.Sounds like the younger dog is challenging the older to be head of the pack which means you, as Alpha, needs to stop it.
Didn't think of it because our first dog and old girl never did much like begging for food until we were walking away. The problem is when we lock one up in a room, my autistic son is sensitive to the whimpering and barking and would override my wife and I and let the one dog out of the room.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:50 pm to jerseyfla
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11 y/o GSD/Husky mix Female that we have had for 9 years.
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Thinking about rehoming the older grouchy bitch.
You’re the biggest idiot and piece of shite ever. Sid you not research or use any brainpower whatsoever to figure out that Huskies DO NOT get along with cats, there is literature all over the place warning of this issue.
Now you want to “rehome” a dog you’ve had 9 years because you had to get a cute lab mix puppy for the family . You’re a fricking clown
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:51 pm to SOSFAN
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you, as Alpha, needs to stop it.
Yep. They have zero respect for you as Alpha if they fight each other in front of you. They both believe they should be top dog because neither believe you are.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:52 pm to jerseyfla
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Didn't think of it because our first dog and old girl never did much like begging for food until we were walking away. The problem is when we lock one up in a room, my autistic son is sensitive the whimpering and barking and would override my wife and I and let the one dog out of the room.
So first up - try to keep food off the floor.
But immediately when it happens shut that growling down. You let the old one go unchecked and now both think it’s acceptable to growl/bark/and now bite. Old girl needs to be told you are the boss and that won’t be flying, instead of this laid back letting them escalate and it going over the line.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:52 pm to jerseyfla
The younger dog obviously sees a weakness in the older and is standing her ground. Dogs are pack animals and thrive on their place in the pack. She is basically telling the older dog that she is equal or even higher ranked so when the older is growling at the younger dog it is a challenge.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:53 pm to Tangineck
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Yep. They have zero respect for you as Alpha if they fight each other in front of you. They both believe they should be top dog because neither believe you are.
The reply above is actually 100% true.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:55 pm to Proximo
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You’re the biggest idiot and piece of shite ever. Sid you not research or use any brainpower whatsoever to figure out that Huskies DO NOT get along with cats, there is literature all over the place warning of this issue.
Now you want to “rehome” a dog you’ve had 9 years because you had to get a cute lab mix puppy for the family . You’re a fricking clown
Yeah thanks for the encouragement. No we admittingly did not because my wife and I grew up with dogs and cats and never had issues with a family dog mauling a family cat. We didn't realize huskies were this way until we found her playing really rough with the cat and looked it up years ago but we rescued her when she was 2 and didn't want her getting rehomed again, the cat mostly stuck up for himself but that day he lost.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:55 pm to jerseyfla
Way to go getting the poor old cat killed because your dumbass didn’t understand the warning signs.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:56 pm to Proximo
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You’re the biggest idiot and piece of shite ever. Sid you not research or use any brainpower whatsoever to figure out that Huskies DO NOT get along with cats, there is literature all over the place warning of this issue.
That's a crock of shite. It depends on the dog. I've raised Chow Chows for many years and everything tells you they don't like cats. I had a 100lb male that loved my cats and would wake them up with his muzzle if he wanted to and refused to go walking without them with him
Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:00 pm to SOSFAN
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That's a crock of shite. It depends on the dog. I've raised Chow Chows for many years and everything tells you they don't like cats. I had a 100lb male that loved my cats and would wake them up with his muzzle if he wanted to and refused to go walking without them with him
Doesn’t really matter in this case. He let his dog get away with beating the shite out of their cat in the past and didn’t realize maybe the cat shouldn’t be anywhere near the dog or even same room anymore. Now the dog has had a taste of killing family pets and fighting other animals.
Sounds like someone who shouldn’t be owning pets.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:00 pm to jerseyfla
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the cat mostly stuck up for himself but that day he lost.
So you knew it could happen and basically said f*CK it the cats on his own. Honestly I was going to give you ideas that would help but you don't deserve pets
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