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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:33 am to Korkstand
Having had to replace a few rooftops with solar I’m just the opposite. Replacing a roof is expensive enough without having to deal with solar. Our back country cabins now have solar independent of the roofs. I also hate having any roof penetrations that aren’t absolutely necessary.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:35 am to Bard
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as long as it included language mandating that they return the land to its original condition if they decide to abandon the project
What happens if the company goes belly up when it’s time to clean up the land? They need to put the cash upfront to clean up the land after they are done.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:35 am to samson73103
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Not sure the world will even exist in another 30 yrs but if it does, yeah its gonna be a clusterfrick.
I heard this 30 years ago from the climate science.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:37 am to TimeOutdoors
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don’t get the hate for solar farms
The issue is converting prime farmland or forest into them and the return on that investment being shite in terms of energy density. It's massively subsidized because it has to be for anybody to do it. It doesn't fricking make sense otherwise. The footprint is massive and the output is low. There are a gazillion acres of rooftop, why not use that instead? If it's so great why isn't the superdome one big arse solar panel? Because it isn't great. It sucks.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:38 am to Korkstand
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We need jobs, of course, but spending time producing things like food and energy which are immediately consumed and gone is a sort of wasteful way to spend our time
What? People cant live without food and most people cant live without their phone.
And without electricity, your electric stove aint cooking that food.
You are really downplaying the importance of these two things.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:39 am to TimeOutdoors
quote:Well a roof and solar panels have just about the same lifespan.
Having had to replace a few rooftops with solar I’m just the opposite. Replacing a roof is expensive enough without having to deal with solar.
quote:If the land use for solar panels to power a cabin is less than what would need to happen to run infrastructure to it, then it can still be a net positive.
Our back country cabins now have solar independent of the roofs.
quote:I'm with you on that. I'd like to see a lot more competition and progress with solar shingles. Also fingers crossed that work continues on PV paints.
I also hate having any roof penetrations that aren’t absolutely necessary.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If it's so great why isn't the superdome one big arse solar panel? Because it isn't great. It sucks.
Because the superdome wasn’t designed for the weight to support it. Like I said in an earlier post, I’ll never be for putting solar on the roof (learned that from my first cabin). All it does is make roof repairs/replacements considerably more expensive and increases the maintenance costs.
Solar Covered Parking I do like the idea of solar covered parking at places like the super dome though. I expect you are going to see alot more of this especially in southern states where the panels can be installed relatively flat.
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:48 am to TimeOutdoors
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All it does is make roof repairs/replacements considerably more expensive and increases the maintenance costs
It’s only an issue when the roof is already old. Any of the solar asset managers that are worth a shite won’t finance on an old roof.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:48 am to dgnx6
quote:You have misunderstood the statement.
What? People cant live without food and most people cant live without their phone.
And without electricity, your electric stove aint cooking that food.
You are really downplaying the importance of these two things.
Food and energy are obviously needed. I'm saying that the fewer jobs required to meet those needs, the better. This is a basic statement on worker productivity.
I said it's "wasteful" to spend our time producing these things because we can't grow wealth by producing an excess of food or energy. We consume what we need, and any excess production or capacity is wasted.
So, IMO, it's counter-productive to want more jobs in energy or food production. What we want economically is more productivity in all industries, so in industries like food and energy where supply must exactly equal demand that must result in fewer jobs (relatively speaking).
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:55 am to billjamin
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It’s only an issue when the roof is already old.
And your cost to replace your roof is going to be about twice what it should be (if not more). Do not put your panels on your roof. Talk to anyone that has been through this and they will tell you the same.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:59 am to billjamin
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there are a ton of jobs monitoring and 3rd party jobs (drones, weather data companies, insurance etc)
Few, if any, of which will be in the local economy. It’s a complete bust for the local economy which was the point of my OP. The news reports the creation of jobs. But they’re temporary at best. It does little if anything for the local economy whereas actual farming- you know, that awful time waster people like Korkstand despise- puts
Money back into the local area.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:00 am to TimeOutdoors
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And your cost to replace your roof is going to be about twice what it should be (if not more). Do not put your panels on your roof. Talk to anyone that has been through this and they will tell you the same.
You’re going to have to explain that math to me. Most of the solar companies I’ve worked with, hundreds of them, are a couple thousand to R&R a system.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:08 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:Since the beginning of civilization the top 2 priorities of man have been:
It does little if anything for the local economy whereas actual farming- you know, that awful time waster people like Korkstand despise- puts
Money back into the local area.
1. frick
2. Sustain our lives in fewer hours to leave more time for priority #1
You seem to want to go backwards, wanting more jobs and more man-hours spent toiling away to produce the basic necessities of life. It doesn't make any sense. Do you want farmers to trash their modern equipment so we can create more jobs working the land?
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:10 am to member12
Bill Gates bough up a shite load of farm land. I wonder if he’s got solar panels thanking up space?
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:25 am to frequent flyer
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Honestly Wal Mart should lease out their rooftops for these things. And people should put them on their homes. But we shouldn't be wasting land on this. They aren't farms. They are powerplants that will have to be decommissioned and cleaned up in a couple of decades.
My son did a high school project showing that using the electric poles as individual solar sites is enough to produce electricity without taking good farm/ranch land that produces food for humans and animals. Figure out how many poles are being used in the US and add what a solar panel will average per day. In reality it's not about electricity it is about locking up farm/ranch land and squeezing the food supply.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:31 am to TimeOutdoors
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Solar Covered Parking I do like the idea of solar covered parking at places like the super dome though. I expect you are going to see alot more of this especially in southern states where the panels can be installed relatively flat.
I'm totally down for getting to park in the shade at Walmart or the mall!
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:35 am to billjamin
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Fed is a 30% FMV ITC that the "owner" gets. I say that because the "owner" is never who you think it is. You only see the operator, not the tax equity investor. It's a big bank i'm sure (JPM, BoA, etc.)
I'm assuming the push in Louisiana is just because we have some of the cheapest AG land available?
Cutover timber land like they are using in Beauregard parish makes way more sense to me, but they are going to be thousands in the hole clearing stumps compared to just using flat/cleared farm land.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:37 am to Kingpenm3
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I'm totally down for getting to park in the shade at Walmart or the mall!
Don't panels emit a shite ton of heat?
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:43 am to member12
After the next hurricane that will be scattered over thousands of square miles.
Solar is so stupid. Nuclear is a better way to go but the greenies would never allow it.
Solar is so stupid. Nuclear is a better way to go but the greenies would never allow it.
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