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155 Years Ago Today Confederate Forces Opened Fire on Fort Sumter
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:22 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:22 am
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The Battle of Fort Sumter (April 12–14, 1861) was the bombardment and surrender of Fort Sumter, near Charleston, South Carolina, that started the American Civil War. Following declarations of secession by seven Southern states, South Carolina demanded that the US Army abandon its facilities in Charleston Harbor. On December 26, 1860, Major Robert Anderson of the U.S. Army surreptitiously moved his small command from the vulnerable Fort Moultrie on Sullivan's Island to Fort Sumter, a substantial fortress controlling the entrance of Charleston Harbor. An attempt by U.S. President James Buchanan to reinforce and resupply Anderson, using the unarmed merchant ship Star of the West, failed when it was fired upon by shore batteries on January 9, 1861. South Carolina authorities then seized all Federal property in the Charleston area, except for Fort Sumter.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 am to Darth_Vader
Amazingly there were zero casualties when they surrendered the fort.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:25 am to NYNolaguy1
In defense of States' Rights 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:28 am to Darth_Vader
LSU should return to cannon that fired on Ft. Sumter back to its rightful spot in Charleston.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:28 am to NYNolaguy1
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Amazingly there were zero casualties when they surrendered the fort.
And the Confederates held onto the Fort until almost the end of the war despite the several Union attempts to retake the fort.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 am to Hoyt
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In defense of States' Rights
Foremost among these, was the right of one man to own another one.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 am to LCA131
Who won?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:30 am to undrafted
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Who won?
The battle? Or the war?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:30 am to Darth_Vader
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And the Confederates held onto the Fort until almost the end of the war despite the several Union attempts to retake the fort.
True, but there wasn't much a fort left by the point.
I would have loved to have seen the fort before the war. What is there now is really only a fraction of what it used to look like.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:31 am to LCA131
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Foremost among these, was the right of one man to own another one.
Totally false
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:31 am to Darth_Vader
Seemed like a good idea at the time...
In retrospect, maybe a political solution should have been found.
In retrospect, maybe a political solution should have been found.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:33 am to GetCocky11
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True, but there wasn't much a fort left by the point.
True. This picture was taken in 1864.
Confederate forces didn't abandon the fort until Feb 1865.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:33 am to Darth_Vader
Got to visit Sumter and Charleston last year
recommend that to anyone... the history is incredible
recommend that to anyone... the history is incredible
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:34 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Yet some revisionist historians call it the War of Northern Agression.
Confederate Forces Opened Fire
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:34 am to Hoyt
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Totally false
The Constitution of the Confederacy and the US Constitution were substantially identical EXCEPT for the pesky thing about owning another person.
Look it up, Son.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:34 am to soccerfüt
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Seemed like a good idea at the time...
In retrospect, maybe a political solution should have been found.
Well, it sort of was found, namely secession. Lincoln could have let the South go it's own way and there would have never been a drop of blood shed. Instead, Lincoln chose war.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:34 am to LCA131
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Foremost among these, was the right of one man to own another one.
You do realize that there were Union slave States DURING AND AFTER the civil war? That the last slave to be freed was in Delaware IIRC?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:36 am to LCA131
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The Constitution of the Confederacy and the US Constitution were substantially identical EXCEPT for the pesky thing about owning another person.
Look it up, Son.
Do me a favor. Tell me where in the constitution as written in 1861 says one person can't own another? Son.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:37 am to Hoyt
quote:Meltdown: Day 54,759
In defense of States' Rights
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:40 am to ballscaster
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Yet some revisionist historians call it the War of Northern Agression.
What you've got to understand is history is oftentimes a matter of perspective. From the Southern point of view the war was one of Northern aggression due to the fact the north refused to retreat from what the South considered now sovereign territory of the Confederate States of America. As I said above, Lincoln could have ordered Anderson to leave Sumter, as Union forces had done at several other Federal installations already. However, instead he chose to hold onto Sumter knowing this move would lead to war. This is where the perspective of the war being one of "Northern Aggression" come from. This point of view was further driven home due to the fact that from the onset it was the Union that invaded the Confederacy starting only a few months after the fall of Fort Sumter.
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