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re: 13 charged in plots to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer, target state government

Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7650 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:18 pm to
i really enjoyed our little talk, thanks.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:24 pm to
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I don't condone this at all and that is not the way to go about fixing this


Yeah, well keep voting and watch it continue to change nothing. At some point you get past the point where that works.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104337 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:25 pm to
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Was the Klan in the 1870s a terrorist organization or fighting a tyranny that governed without representation?


Lawd.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36563 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:27 pm to
quote:


Was the Klan in the 1870s a terrorist organization or fighting a tyranny that governed without representation?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70060 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:38 pm to
not buying this a “right wing” group.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44051 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

i really enjoyed our little talk, thanks.


I enjoyed you dodging all the pertinent questions because you're nothing more than a partisan hack.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7650 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:43 pm to
right back at you.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62982 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:44 pm to
Hat tip to flexdawg for these. Here is one of the guys saying Trump is a tyrant and not your friend.
LINK
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63092 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:07 pm to
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Hat tip to flexdawg for these. Here is one of the guys saying Trump is a tyrant and not your friend.
LINK




MAGA politards:

Posted by skinnytrees
REC Check Writing Office
Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:10 pm to
The most disappointing part is that the plot did not work

Getting scum out of government is very American
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:29 pm to
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not buying this a “right wing” group.


I was just reading about them, and their ideology is kind of all over the place. They read mostly like extremist libertarians, if we want to put a label on them. Not sure how you can be an anarchist while supporting the Bill Of Rights.

Mostly they sound like a bunch of dumb Michigan rednecks.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
3050 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:41 pm to
I hope they got their mail in votes already submitted for the election.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:45 pm to
These people are literally no different than out founding fathers except they lost.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21148 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:21 pm to


If trump had sons...wait...trump’s sons.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28662 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:03 pm to
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These people are literally no different than out founding fathers except they lost.


I don't say this often unless I am just busting balls but in this case you are dumber than frick.

The American Revolution was fought against the rule of a monarch. The English kings and queens derived their power from divine right. Richard I once famously exclaimed, "I am born in a rank which recognizes no superior but God, to whom alone I am responsible for my actions". He also coined the motto Dieu et mon droit which you can still find on the UK Coat of Arms. You see the colonial Americans had no say in their governance they were ruled at the whim of an all powerful King second only to God in power. There was no chance to vote him out or challenge his power in a court system.

Governor Whitmer derives her power not from divine right but the democratic vote of the people of Michigan. There are multiple ways to legally remove her from office or oppose any overreach. If it is the will of the people of Michigan then she could be recalled or voted out.

You say these people are literally no different from the founding fathers but it is hard to begin to argue that when the founding fathers had no legal recourse save petitioning God and him coming down and telling George III he was wrong. You could bleat on about how Whitmer is a tyrannical autocrat but nothing you scream to the heavens will make it so. She is a duly democratically elected Governor for whom there is more than one legal way within the constitution to remove her from power by the will of the people. To suggest the founding fathers were literally the same as this group of nutbags is like equating chalk and cheese.

Governors in the US are like shite you buy on Amazon. If they don't meet the expectations of the buyer they can choose to buy a different product next time. In the event the buyers feel it necessary to act quicker they just have to get together and file a return and pick a new product.

Given your take on these fine gentlemen's plans and keeping the same perspective, how would you argue the rioters actions are any different than the Sons of Liberty on Griffin's Warf?
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 10:15 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 6:23 am to
So it turns out these turds were "Never Trumpers".....hahahahahaha... ....you Libtards are in good company......
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:50 am to
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this is exactly what the 2nd is for






Explaination, or just
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No it's not.

?
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28662 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:15 pm to
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quote:
this is exactly what the 2nd is for





Explaination, or just
quote:
No it's not.

?



While not in the constitution the phrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident" has always troubled me. I am not sure who drafted that line but Jefferson/Adam/Livingston or Sherman gave people too much credit or the we just referred to them. The People need more explanation.

In regards to the government, the 2A is there to allow for the people to have a means to prevent the government from taking the people's right to choose their government.

The 2A wasn't drafted so a group of numbskull Torys that didn't like Washington could mount up and kidnap him by force try him for treason in a shack in a backwoods holler in Western Virginia and execute him. The same as it isn't there so some group of idiots from Michigan who just found out a democratic republic isn't like Burger King where they can always have it their way.

Tyranny and tyrannical are words that get thrown around a lot in modern American but the vast majority of people in the US and a few in this thread simply have no concept of what it is like to like in a tyrannical state.

We still have the right to vote for our leaders and elections have consequences. The 2A is not for the few who don't like what their democratically elected leadership does it is for the day that a president or other leader decides to declare him or herself king or emporer. Fortunately, most people recognize this since if they didn't assassination attempts on sitting US presidents would be as common as flies around an outhouse.

This merry band of morons are not patriots they are seditionists.

This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13692 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:21 pm to
What were they gonna do with her when they kidnapped her?
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