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re: 119 Used Car models to avoid based on make and year from annual survey
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:24 am to Gifman
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:24 am to Gifman
I have an 06 Fusion that has less than 15k miles and runs great - never had a single problem with it.
back when i got it in 2010, i could go from Birmingham to Charlotte NC on a tank. best car I have owned since my 86 Mustang in High School
back when i got it in 2010, i could go from Birmingham to Charlotte NC on a tank. best car I have owned since my 86 Mustang in High School
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:38 am to tiggerthetooth
So you’re posting a random list with no resources and no explanation of why we need to avoid these vehicles….
Seems like the most OT thing to do…..
Seems like the most OT thing to do…..
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:42 am to Swagga
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What’s the issue with the 15-19 Silverado / Sierra out of curiosity?
No one knows because the list is shite. It’s some BS random list with no resources or explanations.
And who is “our”?
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 7:45 am
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:58 am to Rip Torner
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cheap made crap
You'll get no little rubber duckies for your hateful remarks!

Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:02 am to Hangover Haven
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So you’re posting a random list with no resources and no explanation of why we need to avoid these vehicles….
It's not a random list. It's from Consumer Reports and is published annually.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:08 am to slacker130
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It's not a random list. It's from Consumer Reports and is published annually.
Where in the OP does it say that?
If it is, at least they could’ve posted it?
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:57 am to X123F45
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The toyota production method of Kaizen is much less profitable than the standard means of manufacturing. They constantly improve models through their entire life cycle rather than simply making the changes at a refresh or new model.
Their system also empowers all employees to suggest improvements. The culture is that all suggestions are considered. They are also more willing to recall and fix even minor issues than other manufacturers.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:25 am to Hangover Haven
Sounds like someone owns a late model Jeep Wrangler
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:34 am to AllDayEveryDay
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Not sure why it doesn't just say quote:Jeep: All Models
I have a 2011 Wrangler that’s only ever had 1 issue, and it was caused by user error.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:39 am to Gifman
But we keep hearing about how American brands have caught up and win all the JD Power awards.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:39 am to fallguy_1978
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I have a 2017 F150, which is on the list too, and it's been fine for 7 years so far.
Mine too, just gave it to my kid to take back to Baton Rouge. It’s been rock solid
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:00 am to GreenRockTiger
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I have a 2019 traverse and it hasn’t given me problems - yet
My wife had a '17 (somehow not on their list) and that thing was the biggest headache I've ever owned. Transmission went out just before 55k miles, thermostat shortly before that, and electrical issues that popped up almost immediately after we bought it.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:23 am to Locoguan0
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I've always wondered why no American companies have thrown a blank check at some of Toyota's engineers.
The Toyota Production System isn't a secret.
There are a few things going for Toyota:
1) People buy Toyota because they EXPECT a high quality, reliable car. Those people are MUCH more likely to properly maintain their car than your average Nissan Altima owner.
2) Historically, Toyota has avoided the "bleeding edge" and instead relies on "tried and true." This draws complaints about Toyota's comparative features and tech, but it pays dividents when it comes to reliability.
3) From what I can tell, Toyota's are generally among the more "easy to work on" vehichles.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:24 am to DTRooster
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Not one Toyota or Lexus
I love those brands but they will be on the list as the turbo engines replace the bulletproof V6 and V8 engines from the last 20 years.
They’re looking at massive recalls on the new gen engines because the turbos are blowing up due to debris being left in the engine during the manufacturing process.
All the Tundras, GX, LX and LC models are impacted.
They don’t do quick innovation well and switched before they were ready due to pressure from DC.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:10 am to Rusted
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Sounds like someone owns a late model Jeep Wrangler
I don’t drive women’s cars.
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