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re: 11 year old brain cancer survivor commits suicide due to bullying

Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14869 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:19 pm to
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I mean in this incident it was an 11 year old kid, I'm not sure we can safely make that assumption


That's a fair point.

Coming more from the "method doesn't matter" camp, I can honestly say I'm hesitant on the gun focus because it tends to take over the discussion and I know there's so much more to a situation like this than that. But that doesn't mean the gun access isn't a big deal.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:25 pm to
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I can honestly say I'm hesitant on the gun focus because it tends to take over the discussion
I do see what you're saying.

The only thing though, the original guy that mentioned it literally stated it, "as a sidenote," and the gun crowd jumped in and ran with it without actually reading/comprehending that comment.

It can be both. It can be sad/tragic and we can question the bullies here AND wonder how she had access to guns, but some here make it sound like if you question the gun part, you don't care at all about anything else. It's probably the same crowd that thinks Obama was going to take away their guns.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

I just don't get the cultural shift that brought about kids killing themselves or their classmates


quote:

I think we had one suicide at my high school in 4 years.



Seems like the problem existed in your time as well. No kid should ever feel so hopeless to have to resort to taking their life.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106007 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:49 pm to
The posters who think bullied kids should just man up are noticeably absent from this thread.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55339 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:57 pm to
And yet Poli Talk lol'ed at Hillary saying she'd distribute $500,000,000 to anti-bullying initiatives
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:34 am to
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The posters who think bullied kids should just man up are noticeably absent from this thread.


A post I made in another thread 2 days before this thread
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 8:35 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37671 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:49 am to
quote:

If someone is hell bent on suicide, they will find a way. Hanging, pills, etc. How many people have prescription painkillers in their homes? How about bedsheets or knives? Or vehicles and garden hoses?





RE: suicide issues in particular. It turns out the suicide rate among men and boys is significantly higher than that of women - even though women and girls attempt suicide more often.

A major reason for this discrepancy is boys and men more frequently use a gun when they decide to make an attempt. It is a lot more likely you will be successful with a gun than with a knife or pills.
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:55 am to
I'd go kick the shite out of that bully. Kids like that need a good arse beating no matter how old they are.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15302 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:45 am to
The little frickers need to be held responsible but what can really be done?
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