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re: Wouldn’t surprise me to see Lattimore and Kamara traded in the off-season

Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:49 am to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13934 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:49 am to
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I have a feeling we will be sending both of them to new teams for draft picks. More than likely at their request and I can’t blame them if it shakes out that way. Both players, especially Kamara, deserve to play for a better team.

I think a 2nd for Lattimore and a 3rd for Kamara gets it done. Shame we have to likely trade players away to restock our draft picks from horrendous trades.

While I’m thinking about it, it wouldn’t surprise me if Olave wants out instead of playing with Carr for another year.

Goodness what a mess
We need to trade player in order to begin a rebuild. If we could get value for Kamara, I would be all for it. He is 29 and makes $18 million a year. Lattimore would be a tougher pill to swallow but may be necessary.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23704 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:57 am to
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The cap hits are rough, but if you get draft picks you have cap "relief" in that you have slotted money depending on where the pick falls, and its secured for 3-4 years. If Allen returns, I don't see Lattimore playing in NO.



There is no value there for other teams to do this. Those cap hits go with them. The dead money stays. No team is giving up any sort of significant value for those cap hits on those players. Those guys are virtually untradeable. Only topped by Carr's lack of trade value.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23704 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:03 am to
I'll tell you whats going to happen. They will ride out the bad contacts until final year when a contender is looking for someone. They will get less value because they will need extensions. No one wants a RB on the wrong side of 30 so Kamara has no value. Carr will have to be cut because he has a no trade clause. Latt is the only one with value but not until 2025 when you save 6 mil on cap. And you are still praying for a team to get crazy and give you a 3rd.

The Saints will have to decide to ride this out, suck balls for a few years, fire everyone, and hope you draft a franchise QB quickly.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:04 am to
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No one wants a RB on the wrong side of 30 so Kamara has no value.


Theres a guy in Denver who I can promise you would be interested.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23704 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:11 am to
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Theres a guy in Denver who I can promise you would be interested.



Sure. Here's your 6th rounder. Worth it if you draft Tom Brady, I guess.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:30 am to
Lol he gave up a late pick for a kicker. He’ll give up a midrounder or more for Kamara.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8813 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:41 pm to
take a look at their contracts and then come tell me they will be traded this offseason. It costs us more for them not to be on the roster than on it and no one is taking on a contract for a 30 year old RB or a CB that has missed most of the past 2 seasons.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:46 pm to
Kamara is 28 and Mcaffrey was traded for second, third, fourth and fifth round picks. Contenders will give up picks to get a guy that gets you over the hump.

Imagine Kamara on the Chiefs or Bills.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23704 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Kamara is 28 and Mcaffrey was traded for second, third, fourth and fifth round picks. Contenders will give up picks to get a guy that gets you over the hump.



And they had a QB making 800K. They had the luxury to do that.

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Imagine Kamara on the Chiefs or Bills.



Lol. Neither of these teams are paying a 29 year old RB 20 Mil.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
547 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:26 pm to
Who do you see AK going to, IF traded? Hopefully AFC as I don't want to play against him at all, especially if it is twice a year inter-divisional.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13640 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:44 am to
One of those two is not like the other.

Kamara is a joke that refuses to take contact as a running back. No team is giving anything of value for him with his contract, so stop dreaming. He puts up garbage time stats and then people blow him as if he’s a top tier running back.

If he grows a spine, maybe he gets some interest but he’s more likely to just keep attacking dudes already down on the ground than that.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34925 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:00 pm to
Lattimore should pull a 1st
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34925 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Jalen Ramsey was traded for 3rd round pick and shitty TE. Trading vet players is never a great option because you never get equal value in return.


The rams were also trading from a negative position.

Lattimore should pull a 1st in the right situation.

Would probably end up being a 2nd and 4th.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
113940 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:26 pm to
Neither Lattimore or Kamara want to be a Saint any more
Trade them and start rebuilding
Throw Tomas in the mix too
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72471 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:54 am to
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Who do you see AK going to, IF traded? Hopefully AFC as I don't want to play against him at all, especially if it is twice a year inter-divisional.


Whoever give anything of value.
It’s Alvin fricking kamara and he’s pushing 30 as a running back. It’s not like we’re trading prime Adrian Peterson.

But as has been said numerous times. Nobody is trading anything for these guys under the current financial restraints.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 6:58 am
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13692 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 7:52 am to
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Dallas


Have Tony Pollard and Dowdle

quote:

Miami


Has the deepest RB room in the league
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Shame we have to likely trade players away to restock our draft picks from horrendous trades.


100% We have made a few terrible trades over the years-

**The trades to Move up in the 1st round for 4th round talent. (No. 14, Marcus Davenport)

Gave away
2018 pick No. 18
2018 pick No. 88
2018 pick No. 248
2019 pick No. 21

for

2018 pick No. 14 (Marcus Davenport)
2018 pick No. 147


Doing this With Lamar Jackson still on the board!!

Horrible Move

---------------------------------

2011 Mark Ingram Trade

2011 2nd Round pick (No. 56)
2012 1st Round pick (No. 27)

to the to Patriots

2011 1st Round (No. 28, Mark Ingram)

Bad trade in my opinion


I hate Moving up unless its for a QB.

This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2601 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:00 pm to
I think they will be on roster for 2 more years.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50041 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:22 pm to
That would be a smart move. Dump their salaries if it will help the cap and get some trade picks for them. If you hang onto them they will be washed up or retired by the time the team is good or competitive again. Might as well get something of value while you can.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31635 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:10 am to
I bet they don’t if they retain Allen. He’s not getting better by losing his two best players.

I agree with you Zombie, but I’m just saying Allen will be a shite head if you do that. You’re basically firing him without firing him. Which is the laziest thing possible.
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